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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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4b11t?

anyone have any pics of the new engine yet?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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the new outlander is a 4b12.

even though its a v6 might look similar in someway.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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or just wait for the new lancer to come out that will have a 4b11
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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I thought there might be at least 1 pic out there of the new engine...
I have googled everywhere, but I am coming up with zip..
Thanks anyway for the fast responses...
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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FWIW, this is the 4B12 - NOT THE ENGINE FOR THE X


However, since the new Outlander also features AWC, it's likely to be very similar to what will be eventually powering the evo X.

In the outlander, it makes 170hp at 6,000rpm and 226Nm at 4,100rpm. Fairly lame for a 2.4, but then again, it's never really meant for performance.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Oh, and it's a 4cylinder engine, 16valves.
MIVEC on both cams.
Al block.
Apparently it's 10% better than the 2010 requirements (whatever that is).
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by x838nwy
FWIW, this is the 4B12 - NOT THE ENGINE FOR THE X


However, since the new Outlander also features AWC, it's likely to be very similar to what will be eventually powering the evo X.

In the outlander, it makes 170hp at 6,000rpm and 226Nm at 4,100rpm. Fairly lame for a 2.4, but then again, it's never really meant for performance.
Thanks for the pic/info...I agree that the design will/should be close to the one you posted...
Is a 2.0 displacement confirmed or just speculation at this point....?
I would think that a 2.4 would be a more disirable package on the new evo now that Mitsu have withdrawn from the WRC and is now not limited to homologation rules...
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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it's going to be very intersting to see how this engine preforms under increased boost.................
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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from what ive heard its still 2.0

mitsu will be back next year for wrc
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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from what ive heard its still 2.0

mitsu will be back next year for wrc
theres no reason they shouldn't be as the stock evo X looks just like a rally car, especially the wing imo
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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I've been trying to keep some good info here. There just isn't alot out there right now.
www.4b11t.net

There is some good pics of the general GEMA 2.0L on this Mopar site. There will obviously be major differences.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Total guess work but perhaps:
4 = 4 cyl
B = ???
12 = 2.4 x 10/2

Then:
4B11t should be something like a 11 x (2/10) = 2.2litre turbocharged?

Anyway, the comp. ratio in the 4B12 is 10.5 I think. A bit low, but then again, it's an SUV.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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From one of the above links... the chrysler version (which will probably look very similar to ours):







Some good comments made on that page:

"The engines are designed to be turbocharged and supercharged, partly through over-engineering of the block, and use of large water jackets and metal areas around each siamesed cylinder."

Coil-on Plug ignition system

"Most of the packaging/dressing components, such as intake manifolds and valve timing equipment, appear to have been developed by each partner independently and will be used independently as well." (So, Mitsu will make all their own intake/valvetrain)

"The electro-hydraulic dual valve timing system uses oil under pressure to adjust timing (both intake and exhaust) using cam phasing so that timing is continuously variable."

"While all the engines use essentially the same block, displacement is changed by shortening the stroke or using thicker piston liners. The pistons themselves have short skirts and friction-reducing graphite patches. The crankshaft is forged steel, is located above the balance shaft/oil pump, and draws oil from the oil pan; it includes an integrated pump. The blocks are all automatically measured at the factory and key components such as pistons and bearings are matched to individual engines to reduce machining and noise, while increasing engine efficiency."

Last edited by Fireball; Nov 27, 2006 at 10:27 AM.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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I spy a timing chain...
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