i plan on keeping my BBY 03' baby.

 

All I want is the TURBO AND WASTE GATE OFF the MR THATS IT.

 

About 350 hp, group N less than that.

 

Wow, how fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile do you want? Sub 5 second 0-60 is very fast, for under $50,000 you may be waiting for a long time. These cars weren't made for street racing, the Evo beats the STI where it matters, in handling. Maybe you should look into a Camaro SS or Mustang Cobra, if you can afford it just get a Porche GT3. The Porche will give you .5 sec on the STI but for 3 times the price

 

My guess is that the STi is tuned more conservatively than the '04 STi to eliminate the detonation issue they had.



If the Evo is a ringer how do I specify my MR to get the ringer package?

 

I have an MotorTrend subscription and I don;t have mine yet... We usually get them a couple days early. Doesn't surprise me that the MR figures are almost identical... 5hp is nothing, one more cog, in most cases isn't much, lighter roof big deal, AYC well you would think this would help the slalom numbers but I don't see a diff. Yep I am happy with the regular old Evo VIII. Although if I was buying today all over again I guess I would get the MR anyway, but let's just see that sticker MSRP...

BTW, whoever had the magazine, what wads the MSRP listed for the MR and the STI, or were they estimated?

 

Prices are as follows:
STi: Base MSRP = $32,770; Price as tested = $33,698
MR: Base MSRP and Price as tested both estimated to be $34,900

Given that pretty much nobody pays over $32,000 for their STi's, the final negotiated sales prices for the MR will be very interesting.

BTW, the article appears in a special issue of Motor Trend (2005 & 2006 New Cars issue), *not* the October issue.

 

Evo MR $34.900 (est) STI $32,770 base $33,698 as tested

 

So with dealer markup, the MR is going to end up being 3-5k more than the STi? Yuck. No way I'm paying more than MSRP on an MR...for $37-38K I'll just look elsewhere.

 

here is the issue that "CMF" is talking about.. look under "road tests"
http://www.motortrend.com/toc/thismonth/

 

Low 4's and high 12's respectively. An SS or Cobra??? Hence the name...'86 T-Type, and it came out in late '85 with a 0-60 at 4.9 for about $15K. So I don't think I'm asking for too much. But don't get me wrong...we can't go by what 1 mag says...I drive it and see for myself.

 

You're comparing an Evolution to a Buick Regal T-Type? The car could do only one thing well by today's standards -- straight-line acceleration. Additionally, the high 12's in the T-Type if I recalled pretty much required a flawless launch at sea level (stock).

Furthermore, $15,000 in 1985 does not equal $15,000 today. Today that car would be hovering around $30,000. 20 years of inflation will do that.

Evolutions are not drag cars. They really, really aren't. If you want a drag car, although the Evolution could do the job, it's expensive and you're much better off searching for an old T-Type or Grand National, a 2003 SVT Mustang Cobra, Firebird Trans-Am, etc. The Evolution will not do it as cost effective as those cars.

The Evolution's first priority is handling, second would be handling, and third would be handling. Acceleration and braking round it out, and just serve to complement handling to round out the package.

 

let's hope there's not a corner or bump on your way to that 60mph dash in your t-type. oh, and by the way, the styling is gorgeous. i admit an evo isn't the best looking car ever, but comparing it and a t-type is quite silly. also, i'd love to translate 15,000 1986 dollars into the equivalent of the current dollar value and i'll bet your t-type would cost about $45k today... and it's a buick... and it has that beautiful bench seat... and it's a buick (oh yeah, i already said that)... and when it comes time to stop that tank i'm sure it will brake from 60 in less than 300 feet.

 

...and that must be that buick exhaust distorting your use of the english language:
they're=they are
their=possessive of they (i.e., the word you were looking for)
there=a place
keep up the good work and snap us a pic of those raised whites on that t-type so we can all envy you.

 

Exactly and that '03 Evo was tested at a different location known for great traction, not our regular location, so the numbers are always better. IThat Top Speed test was at the Ford Proving Grounds in Kingman, AZ.