First log / couple of questions.
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First log / couple of questions.
first, a 4th gear run.
thats the stock map, etc.
Now my questions. I'm runnin a hallman, set to 18 til i get a feel for things, walbro, also yes, i have a dreaded intake.
When i run the "stock map" turbo xs gives, it's not lookin too bad, it's nowhere near as rich as it was.
Now, when i ran the stock (ecu) complete (map 0), it ran PPPPPPIIIIGGGG rich, like 9.3 a/f, above 6500 it'd max the injectors. The stock map has nothing pulled on the fuel map, why is it so much leaner (see: better), just the timing?
Secondly, how in the WORLD do you guys ever end up hitting some of those load cells... i get a path about 4-5 tall in a diagonal line going down, and can't hit anything else.
Only time i had any knock was when i put the pedal down on the highway in 6th, tried to log a bunch, but i'd log for 4-5 minutes and the computer didn't like the vibration of the seat, even though it was sittin on some shirts to cushion it.
Third, i think i'm confused on the headings on a few, the column to the right of the injector duty is what?(timing advance?) then after that is fuel pull, then boost? (not using utec for boost). Everything is so much ecu run still, i'm not 100% sure
Just wanna make sure i got everything understood.
Thanks guys.
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Now my questions. I'm runnin a hallman, set to 18 til i get a feel for things, walbro, also yes, i have a dreaded intake.
When i run the "stock map" turbo xs gives, it's not lookin too bad, it's nowhere near as rich as it was.
Now, when i ran the stock (ecu) complete (map 0), it ran PPPPPPIIIIGGGG rich, like 9.3 a/f, above 6500 it'd max the injectors. The stock map has nothing pulled on the fuel map, why is it so much leaner (see: better), just the timing?
Secondly, how in the WORLD do you guys ever end up hitting some of those load cells... i get a path about 4-5 tall in a diagonal line going down, and can't hit anything else.
Only time i had any knock was when i put the pedal down on the highway in 6th, tried to log a bunch, but i'd log for 4-5 minutes and the computer didn't like the vibration of the seat, even though it was sittin on some shirts to cushion it.
Third, i think i'm confused on the headings on a few, the column to the right of the injector duty is what?(timing advance?) then after that is fuel pull, then boost? (not using utec for boost). Everything is so much ecu run still, i'm not 100% sure
Just wanna make sure i got everything understood.
Thanks guys.
Last edited by WarmPepsi; Sep 21, 2005 at 05:27 PM.
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also, in the utec, i went in and pulled the stock rev limit down to 7400, just for a little safety right now...
but when i did the run, i hit fuel cut once, and thats when i let off, but my logs show 7017 as the top rev. I have to use a usb adapter to hook to the 0 pin cable, could that be slowing it down? when i watch it live, its live, but when i look at the logs, i wonder
but when i did the run, i hit fuel cut once, and thats when i let off, but my logs show 7017 as the top rev. I have to use a usb adapter to hook to the 0 pin cable, could that be slowing it down? when i watch it live, its live, but when i look at the logs, i wonder
Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
yes sir. with an innovate wideband standalone gauge.
Same thing I use. I noticed the lag of the connection also, but I just figured looking at 2 things at once and paying attention to the road was the culprit. Everything seems fine when I go thru a non-logging pull, just looking at the gauge.
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gotcha. i'm just surprized how much a difference the two maps made, with really not that much different. runs a bunch better, but definatly needs fine tuning.
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also, what is the difference between the 3rd and last columns? i've never seen a full naming thing to know the term, but it's maf voltage, is the first one what the car is looking for, then the last one what it really gets, or how does that work?
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hrm, ok... i guess the only one i ever looked at when i saw aftermarket intakes was the last one, and it was all over the place, as mine is now. But it's actually seeing it relatively well. ( or so i think, right? )
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Originally Posted by SoR
Sorry about little offtopic but did you have a TSX before WarmPepsi? I kind of remember that nickname from clubtsx (which doesn't exist anymore). 
Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
haha, nah, it's cool. I still have an rsx, don't know if i ever posted on clubtsx or not, but if you ever were on clubrsx, you've seen me around.
If your talkng about the TXS stage 1 map.. Using open loop fueling completely takes over for the stock ECU, therefore the fuel map is also different than the stock Stage0 map. Thats why it runs richer in the MAP0 position compared to the MAP1 position (even though the map is filled with 0's for fuel, its really 0% added or removed from the UTEC background map) which is generally leaner than the stock ECU map.
Timing on that map is pretty tame, in some cases tamer than the stock ECU timing, but generally similar. The difference is consistency, since the UTEC does its job doing what you tell it to, the timing and fuel you tell it to use will always do that. With the stock ECU it maintains ignition (knock) trims and Fuel trims.. Both of those could effect performance of the car so on different days it could feel weaker or stronger.. the UTEC is amazingly consistent.
Timing on that map is pretty tame, in some cases tamer than the stock ECU timing, but generally similar. The difference is consistency, since the UTEC does its job doing what you tell it to, the timing and fuel you tell it to use will always do that. With the stock ECU it maintains ignition (knock) trims and Fuel trims.. Both of those could effect performance of the car so on different days it could feel weaker or stronger.. the UTEC is amazingly consistent.