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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Question CEL after injector install..

Well i installed my 780cc injectors and perrin fuel rail the other night in preperation for the new and coming turbo. The install went smooth, i scaled the injectors to 660 on the utec and started pulling fuel at about 2k rpms in the 10% load column all the way through the 100% at redline, the Afrs are a little lean (11.8) at some parts but look ok (11.3) at WOT. So i threw a CEL as soon as i started driving around and i thought it was just the good ol' p0234 (engine overboost) but i wanted to check it to make sure, well it turns out to be the p0300!?! Random Misfire? This is the first time in owning 2 Evos that i have ever thrown that code! I deleted the code and it was fine for the rest of the night. Yesterday morning i started my car and the CEL came back on again, i haven't checked the code but im sure it is the p0300.

My question is, does it have to do with pulling fuel at idle? i never touch the 0% load column. It has been happening when the car is cold. I also have 272's but have never thrown a code b/c of them. The car drives fine.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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Yeah, its common to get that, don't lean out the injectors as much since your at low RPM and closed loop operation at 2000rpm, you have lag on the injectors, and a tip-in lean condition, it could cause a knock that the ECU could confuse as a P0300
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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for me i get p0300 sometime while crusing. but never at WOT. weird
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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That makes sense, i checked the codes about an hour ago and they were 0171 lean condition and p0300, i deleted the codes and added 2% fuel at idle (500-2500rpm in 0% load) and so far no CEL's, thank you for the input Jack
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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i have try this out. i have never get a 0171 code, just p0300 while cruising sometime.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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i have try this out. i have never get a 0171 code, just p0300 while cruising sometime.
yea when your cruising you are in 0% load so just add fuel there, i think you have to add at least 1.5%-2% b/c i threw the code late last night when i was idling at a stop light in the area where i only had 1% added
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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hey NEz136 can you give yor point from 1000 to 5000rpm??
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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hey NEz136 can you give yor point from 1000 to 5000rpm??
Can you explain?

I will do some logging tomorrow and post up my up-to-date maps w/ logs
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nez136
Can you explain?

I will do some logging tomorrow and post up my up-to-date maps w/ logs

what is fueltrim at 3400-3500rpm, which is at crusing speed at about 80mpg?? my is -4 right now
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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in the 0% load i am not taking out any fuel at that RPM

At 10% load i am pulling around 4% fuel at 3400-3500rpm.
What are your injectors scaled at right now?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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ya im getting a rough idle, and its alittle jumpy and a im getting a CEL im running in 0.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Bump kinda want more info on this
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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ok, well after a while of thinking i experimented with my map, i added 20% fuel at idle in the following load cells. 500rpm-1500rpm (0%-50% load) and after 1500 rpm i ramped down to +10% fuel in the 0% load all the way to 6000 rpm. I figured it helped for cold starts runing too lean, i haven't thrown a CEL in a while now, and the car runs great!
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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nice thanks for the update i think im going to have to play around with this.
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