I know this is a Question that has been beat to death.

I currently have a
Secret Weapon Racing Cold air intake.
AGP Intercooler.
Apexi N1 Catback exhaust.

I do NOT plan on buying any more performace upgrades for my car at all!
So my question is if i spent the money on the AP tuner could i run one of the free maps that COBB has on the site or do you think i sould just get a mail in flash from some tuning company. I live in North Dakota so there is NOT A DAMM PLACE TO TUNE ANYTHING AROUND HERE. Is there any place in minnisota or south dakota that does AP protunes?

 

if you're not going to put on any more parts, there is no need for the flexibility of something like the AP. just get a mail in flash. OR, ditch the CAI (weapon r's are not highly thought of, nor are they really gaining you anything with your level of mods) go with a K&N drop in filter and dont even worry about a tune. without changing boost levels or adding more parts.....you really dont need it. most you'll gain with a flash is smoothing things out and maybe gaining some MPG. not trying to come across rash or dick-like, just sayin for the mods you have, spend that money on your payments

 

I know nothing on the weapon r intake either....but most everyone I've talked to says the k&n drop in filter is garbage....I'd recommend...if you changed the intake out is get the WORKS panel filter....more $$ but worth it........anyways with the op having the weapin r intake you couldn't run COBBs base maps anyways...you need the stock box, cobb intake , or panel filter to run one of their base maps

 

I'd say if you really wanted to get the car running better you're gonna have to be willing to do some driving to get to a reputable tuner....either with the AP for a protune or just an open source tune......I would say though that with your mods now a legitimate tune would do more than just smooth things over...it would probably give you another 20-30 hp

 

I do want some power, I just dont want to be some 500WHP evo rolling around for my daily driver. I have had mixed emotions about any!! filter!! some have bad some have good. proven Dyno number prove that the WR intake is legit, and you dont have to put up with the recharge juice that is ususally srayed on the K+N or any other cotton gause filter media clogging up the MAF and the Intake temp sensor. But this is not to be a filter thread! Do you think i can get a good flash just by sending in the ECU and who would you say is the best for the money!

Thanks for the help Im not damming any filter i just hear so much neg-pos about it and we all get the same result in the end. Stalling, sweet intake sound, the stock BOV, Then comes the break the bank 200.00+ to spend to make it enjoyable!

 

If I were you, since no tuner is near, i'd ship my ecu out to WORKS and have give you their p2 flash

 

You can get a very good flash via mail-in. On my 1st Evo I went with Dynoflash and was very happy with it.

I put a Weapon R intake on another car once and took it off shortly after. The reason I think they make more hp is because they offer less filtering protection. That's why I took it off. I just didn't trust it.

I haven't heard badmouthing on K&N drop in filters before. Isn't that their Typhoon intake that doesn't work well with Evos?

 

You're right most of the badmouthing has been on the typhoon intake....but in a side-by-side comparison of the drop in filters... the WORKS filter has more coverage area and a better fit.......then again it costs about $35.00 more.

For the best protection on a flash either mail in or WORKS i'd go the works route as well....not that mail-ins are bad but works has done so much r&d on their p2flash....my advice is to go that route if you couldn't get custom tuned in person....the other benny of the WORKS p2flash is that you retain the ECU based boost control and not a mbc set-up.........then again the works p2 route costs more as well

 

I was looking at dynoflash. I think there service is $235.00 with overnight shipping back to me. I know there is alot of people who dont like WR filter intakes. But most of the hype for any filter is ( I think ) or ( i dont trust it ). The dence foam on the Secret cold air intake is able to trap smaller particles than the cotton gause filter media. Then again i cant prove anything so ehh if my evo blows up due to WR ill know better next time! (lol) I think any CAI over the stock box with proper tuning will net you more HP. I have a couple more questions. Do you have to worrie about knock sensors being disturbed at all when you get a flash? The main reason i posted here is because i like the features of the AP tuner! Too bad i dont have any tuning service here in ND!

 

Your Weapon R must be different than mine was. There was no dense foam on mine. I believe I could see through it quite easily. I think it was an oil type one to catch the dirt, but it just looked too porous to me.

As far as knock sensors being disturbed, do you just mean do you have to worry about knock? I'd say no.

 

I can only add that...one cool thing about the AP is that it has a live data read out of the Knock the engine may be experiencing....when I drive around I always leave my AP on and have the Knock Sensor read out going........this way when I punch it and I see 50 knock count and my engine blows up I can at least see the the #50 read out and scream out in utter terror as my car goes limp........bad joke

 

kinda like bragging rights....... Well what did your knock sensor read out before it blew up! Man if you have enough money to injoy the blowing up of a 4g63 you should be buying some thing more expensive than an evo! lol

Ya the Old WR Dragon cold air intakes had i think a cotton gause filter media, They changed to a dence foam material in all the filters they now offer. They claim you get 2-3 times more filtration of smaller particles than the cotton gause filter. And it allows more free air to pass into intake. Really they have come leaps and bounds over the last 4 years. Filter and intake looks sweet in my car ill have to post some pictures here soon. You get this mean sound at WOT.

Well i think i used the post too much. So im going to leave it up to you if you would like to toss out any more important info you think i sould need? Boost leak test, compression test, also one more question. Does a tune always raise your stock boost? Will i need a MBC to set it back down to 18PSI. I know the works one does not but the dynoflash?



Thanks again guys you have been a real help. If i ever travel down south ill buy you a beer:


Read up on the WR cold air intake tell me what you think... http://weapon-r.com/english/index.ph...d=31&chapter=0

 

Going to your link and looking at the pictures, yes, looks like mine was the Dragon. And yes again, it was 4-5 years ago. LOL

When you do a mail-in tune they'll ask what your mods are and what octane gas you use. Dynoflash controls boost from the ecu and you don't mess with the vacuum lines like Cobb or Vishnu tunes. They'll all set your boost level at something safe. You don't need a boost controller. Boost leak test doesn't hurt. Compression test isn't necessary.

Because your air intake and intercooler might not be compatible with the Cobb tune I'd try a mail-in flash if I were you.

 

Just to clarify, my engine didn't blow up...it was just a joke...just pointing out that the AP allows you to view live data and the Knock Sensor is one you can view

 

When i pulled my ecu out i noticed that the wires had been messed with right off the ecu plugs. Lots of tape and crimp on and spliced wires! What the HELL did the person put onto my car that requried him to murder the ecu wires. Turbo timer? boost controller? Fuel management. Fill me in on this one! I have already sent my ecu to dynoflash.... my car was running really rough and i thought i heard a knock in the engine before i took it out. I hope the ecu flash will help. I only have 58,000 miles on my car. I did find a ground wire coming off the e brake and a t connector on the intake manifold that said greddy! Wonder how much longer my car is going to last?