I've been reading posts concerning forced induction so I have some questions and I wanted your verdict. I have an AT 02 lancer and I wanted decent performance, easy/comfortable setup(prolly plug and play), long lasting, legal(or partly legal), worth my time and money. But i'm worried about the future of our lancers. Turbo, supercharger: which of them gives the ultimate experience to your everyday drving and/or racing? which is easier to do maintainance and/or setup? Or the answer i'm looking for is in the near future?

1) RIPP stage 1 supercharger worth it or not? Is it flawed? Is it better to wait for stage 3? I heard stage 2 is complete but it still has minor flaws. Is it worth your time and money? How easy is the installation? Anyone out there other than RIPP who do supercharger? anymore options when goin supercharger?

2) RRM turbo has been the choice that most members put under their hoods. How's performance and reliability? Is the setup/installation simple enough? what will be the problems if i go turbo(i mean the problems you have so far)? How's gas mileage? stage 0, 1, 2, 3 IC/nonIC arrrrrrgh!!!!!

I know there are a lot of things to take into consideration so you can answer the questions. But I wanna know what is gained and lost. why would i buy supercharger over turbo? why would i buy turbo over supercharger? why would i bother installing, uninstalling things to pass state issued test and certifications?

O btw i'm a noob so please use constructive criticism. I know some answers are already posted but I want more of your opinions.

 

o no not one of these

 

Lol here we go again...

This topic has actually been covered a number of times. Try running a search and you can come up with a ton of results.

I know it's not the easiest way to get what you're looking for, but you're more likely to get detailed information from a thread that already exists than to open a new one.

 

both have their ups and downs. but for unique-ness, go with supercharger. relaly rare to see a supercharged import, especially a lancer. but with that said, being rare also means hard to find help if you need it or parts because ripp custom makes some of the kit. with turbos, you have everything available, no matter where your at and every tuning shop has worked with the best of turbos. as for technical advatnages....theyre both great.

 

1st, we gotta give him props for doing his research 1st, has he read up on it, i dunno i like road races products, good company, good service, awesome products ive always liked how they operate, my friends know i rep them to the fullest i bought a stg 2 turbo, i will give a write up once its installed and what not...

if ur into turbos and thinking of going that route, read the sticky in this section...awesome help!! shows how reliable RRM's stuff is!! I've never really researched superchargers cause i knew i wanted to go the turbo route. Read the RIPP post for the supercharger stuff...
good luck

 

yeah, there are a ton of threads on here comparing the two. just keep in mind: they are both great ways to go fast, one isn't necessarily better than the other, they both have advantages and disadvantages, so choose the one that fits you and your driving style best

as far as i'm concerned they are both the same hp wise, or at least close enough. the difference maybe 20whp at the most (advantage turbo) but i don't think 20whp is enough to make or break a kit

along the same lines is price. rrm stg1 is about the same price as ripp stg2, so keep that in mind as well

for the ripp specific questions:

there is no stage3 and most likely won't be a stg3 kit for lancers, although you could make your own (forged internals, ported head, up the boost etc)

stg2 is complete (they recently overhauled it but by the time you are ready for purchasing, it will be ready for retail). afaik, there never have been any problems with the stg2 setup, the reason for the upgrade was to increase power, safety and drivability, not to fix any fatal flaws

as archangelite said, ripp's kit is pretty much custom, although that doesn't mean any good tuning shop can't install or even diagnose any problems you may have. however, this is true for the stg2 rrm kit as well, because they use their own special pb to control fuel, they are the only ones that can tune/retune the stg2 setup, so it goes both ways

 

for turbos, there's a lot of custom setups not to mention the ones that rrm have. t-25s, t-28s. But there's a lot of option where you don't know w/c saves you money. Have seen pathetic turbos being discussed. The more you burn $$$ the faster you can go and I know most of you are like dying to get the best bang for your buck. Some people doesn't care about how much they burn which is good because we can predict how far our lancers can go. Still as if something else is missing. Same thing with the superchargers. I have seen green's posts about his supercharger making me look forward to whats next for stage 2 and stage 3. Both RIPP and RRM have nice clean setup. Makes me drool for both, like I wanted to buy another lancer so that i can see the difference for both. I'm no mechanic but I love my car and something about it tells me "hey ken, I want to be fast but I wanted to stay with you as long as I could. Would these things hurt me and you at the end? Or will I see you smile while driving?" I just wanted to cut losses. I have seen people burn then burn again. then in the end they ended up having nothing. Maybe i'm a wuss O_o so I'm making you guys / gals my gunie pigs muwahahaha so help me get results. Tell me your fears and concerns and how we make things better. And maybe then I can decide which one is for me or rather which one is for all ^^

 

^very poetic. nice.

 

hey green ^^ I'm a fan of your project. Gl at your supercharger man. I've seen you post in some turbos as well. Maybe you can give me an idea on how it feels to ride a supercharged lancer O_o. Anyway it's because of you that made me confuse on which way to go ><. I never posted before in my 3 yrs as an evom member. But then what your doing made my imagination spark. I thought I'm happy just reading the forums : / but things that i've read in the forums so far seems not enough ; ; may you can let me borrow your supercharger just one day >.>

 

me poetic? hmm maybe it's love. lmao this lancer is the second best thing that happend my whole life. Yet i pushed her to her limit.... now 3 doors are messed up the roof too ; ; not to mention the suspension. So I wanna decide which is the best for her because she save my life a couple of times already and I give her sucky stuff. I'm no racer but i wanted people to see that she's no ordinary car. <psssss> <psssh> can you hear it? If I can inspire people just by letting them see the car, maybe i can inspire them more with sound and g force that comes with it. With FI i'll push her more than ever, but I want her to last longer because I love her so much. Same as you guys. The reason behind being an evom member is that we love the lancers, the first time I bought my car I see envy around me even the honda freaks. Even with the underpowered car we have they hate it because we are special. Honda lasts forever. Mitsubishi may not last forever but they shine the brightest which makes it special; a one time dream that makes you wanna dream more. So i dream more about FIs lol maybe by posting this I can help solve the missing link. For those people who have turbos and superchargers, do you feel that something else is missing? So tell me what you think and maybe we can close the gap

 

honda lasts forever? ive had my lancer since 2002 and not 1 problem yet

 

yes, i had the sds and there was something missing. to go further to get more power because hp is addicting

 

at last a person here feels it too ; ; the more you need power the more you need to take risks ; ; wrong boost and/or setup can lead to some problems.

 

dunno if it's true but people around me are forcing me to buy a 99 civic si 100k miles for 8Gs.. then i ask why would i buy that? then they said, "didn't you know? honda lasts forever". I work at a car dealership so that's the cheapest price they can offer me for that piece of crap. I was thinking of buying another lancer O_o. Sooo one would be manual with turbo in it then an auto with a supercharger. I just can't decide ; ;. I mean there's 2 types of bodykits I like and 2 kinds of FIs that's very promising ; ;. some people are telling me that mitsubishis in the US got chrysler engine, but i wouldn't believe that due to the fact that our engines number is similar to the evos and eclipse. could anyone confirm how chrysler is related to mitsubishi? going back to the subject, I feel sry that there'll be no stage 3 coming for the ripp supercharger <groooowwwwlll>. I just hope that there'll be more companies doing supercharger for us because they really look promising not to mention how ripp are making them carb and emssion certified (i hope this is true).

 

I would go RIPP, just because not many others have. My $.02