I drive a 04 Lancer, automatic tranny and it needs a big energy shot. I believe I have made my mind up on what kit I'm actually getting and that's the A2 kit for 2500. I like the RRM kit but I want to be turbo'ed by this summer. I did research on the TSI kit and it has too many faults. As you all already know, the A2 kit comes with the big 16g with a internal wastegate set at 10psi. Now I have done my research and I see anything over 12psi on internals is a no. I'm gonna be getting electronics like the safc2 and a wideband monitor soon. And I hear the automatic tranny for the lancer is pretty strong so I wont worry too much about the tranny but I do have a nice size tranny cooler coming soon that I'm gonna install. One thing I'm debating is what AFR I should target. 11.1 is safe according to a lot of people but that's very rich and I see having milage problems with a AFR that rich. 13.5 is said to be too lean but I have been discussing with prench, guy who's selling the A2 kit, what's the best AFR for power and safetly and he suggested 13.4-5. Personally, I would like a AFR between 12 to 13.4. Would a AFR around 13.1 to 4 be too much?

I will soon be apart of the turbo'ed autos, along with guru and others

 

Well my car was 13k when I got it last year and I'm done paying it, and the turbo kit is 2500 and ofcourse there are other items I must get that might cost me 500. When you add all of that up, I would have spent close to 17k total, car and turbo, that's lesser than a new ralliart, correct me if I'm wrong and I'd be alot faster than a ralliart. I love the evo, lovely car but I would not pay 400 or 300 for insurance. Why not pay 110 for insurance for a car that has 220+hp and can hang with a stock evo

 

true. even if you bought a lancer brand new. You'd have to put another 15 grand into it to equal the price of an evo, and even then, the insurance is half that of an evo. theres a few lancers that can hang with stock evos. So as much as many of us would love to have an evo, its not that simple. We'll stick with the lancer for now.

 

Need I ask what could be done to the lancer if you put 15grand in it?

 

Not sure what you mean by 400 or 300 for insurance. I assume you mean a month. That is crazy though! I pay $85/month and have had a ticket this past summer for 103 in a 55. I am only 24 so it will go down a lot more next month when I turn 25 too. Unless you have a horrible driving record the insurance IMO was shockingly low for this kind of car.

If you can get 220 whp for under 17 grand then go for it. That's not too bad.

 

220 under 17 grand is doable. But I was quoted about $440 a month with no tickets at age 18. I'm sure it goes down as you get older but most lancer owners are teenagers. $85 a month is pretty damn hard to believe. If I could get that, I'd definately pay it, its less than my insurance now.

 

we all can't afford evo's. and finding an evo at a decent price is pretty difficult. There pretty much all around 20-30 grand, used and new.
Plus, its more fun to take a car that is slow and make it fast.
and also the insurance thing. For the majority of people its a lot of money to get insured on an Evo.

but back on topic.
that sounds like a good plan you got going there. Im planning on doing the same thing with my car (cash permitting). Let us know how it works out when you start on it

 

I like the evo and if I could get one I would, I might in the future but for now I'll just focus on the lancer.

Back on topic, I remember reading a thread for newbies on the wideband and safc2, the guy who wrote it said he ran a AFR of 13.3 and by running that kind of AFR, he saved on gas and gained more power. Now I dont think he was FI, he mostly like was NA. I'm searching to find out what the best AFR is but I have no luck. I want to get as much power as I can handle without blowing something up so I'm worried that 13.4 might be too much but at the same time I dont want to run 11 because that's too rich and my milage would suck. Hopefully I will be the first on these boards with the A2 kit but I know prench has sold a kit already to guy who just came back from iraq.

 

With turbo you want to be a little rich. The problem with the NA lancer is that its too rich, so by leaning it out, you get gas mileage and power. But for turbo, i think you leave it about what it runs when NA.

 

But with me being rich, wouldnt that cause backfire or a smokey exhaust pipe? How about running 12.5 to 13.2, would that be too lean? I assume running too lean will cause knock which is a product of too much heat!

 

go all out and buy an evo 5

 

congrats seems like a fine choice.. A2 is looking to be a serious powerhouse for performance.. I recommend them the owner is a great guy.

 

how much power will their turbo produce? (roughly)

 

Good call. I wonder how much I'll get in tax returns... if I get enough maybe I'll peice together my own turbo setup as well. Good luck to you and you made a fine choice with A2. Keep us updated.

Fox

 

From what I heard from Prench the trubo will be set at 7 psi for around 200 whp, with a good tune. You could always increase the psi but as you said you don't want to go above 12psi just for safety reasons.

Fox