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Old May 8, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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intercooler question...

i have a non i/c t28 kit from rrm.. im looking into getting a stock evo8/evo9 intercooler, you guys think its gonna be good for my set up or should i look for a smaller one??
im only aiming for 220+whp and i thought that the evo8/evo9 intercooler might be overkill...
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Old May 8, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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overkill?

well anyway it will work, not sure how the pipes you have now will line up with it, cuz the evo IC have a 45* pipe commin out of the tanks.

but it bolts right up to the factory frame. only down side is that you have to take off your crash bar, and do a little cutting on the inside of the bumper.



and when you say "only" 220 at the wheels, thats more than you think it is on our cars. thats 250 at the crank and the pistons and rods cant handle that. there are plenty of people on here pushing there motors to the limits running 11-12 psi and being lucky to have 200whp. you go any higher than that you will need new rods and pistons.

but good luck with the build

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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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If you have the RRM non-IC kit, why not talk to RRM and see what they can do for you? If you're shooting for 200+ whp on anything other than a dynojet (or dynopack for that matter), you're going to need to reinforce the motor.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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well im gonna be no where near the 220whp with just the intercooler.. probably only around 170whp, i just wanted to know if the evo8/9 intercooler would be too much for the setup.. rrm said that the intercooler upgrade is $1700.. i can get an intercooler and custom piping for a fraction of the price from my local shop.. not bashing on rrm, all my car parts are from them and they're great just want to save a little money

should i just consider a smaller intercooler??

btw, thanks for the replies!! every tip and advices are very helpful to me!!
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Old May 8, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Go for a smaller intercooler. Something not as tall as the Evo intercooler. You can get an 18x7x3 for a reasonable cost.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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I wouldn't really base i/c size on hp, but moreso on amount of boost. An Evo i/c would be perfect. I mean you never know when you'll want more power and FMIC's can handle quite a bit of boost without it heat soaking. (My SMIC does not allow me to see results past 18psi due to heat soaking).
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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The most boost he'll realistically run is 12 PSI through a T-28, the evo intercooler is setup to run 20+ PSI through a 16G or 18G, it's definitely overkill and an unnecessary drop in pressure.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LVLANCER
rrm said that the intercooler upgrade is $1700.. should i just consider a smaller intercooler?? btw, thanks for the replies!! every tip and advices are very helpful to me!!
u gotta pay to play!!!

give Spearco a call. they various size I/C cores u can choose from & then u could do ur own endtanks or use theirs.

remember the car modding motto- Cheap, Fast, Reliable? Pick 2
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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maybe look into an I/C from an evo 1-3 as they were thinner/smaller for the old CP or CN chassis
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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thanks for posting up with your opinions!! all were very helpful!!

i might be asking you guys again for more things about my car!! so i hope you guys dont get tired of my upcoming question threads!!
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by turboslik
I wouldn't really base i/c size on hp, but moreso on amount of boost. An Evo i/c would be perfect. I mean you never know when you'll want more power and FMIC's can handle quite a bit of boost without it heat soaking. (My SMIC does not allow me to see results past 18psi due to heat soaking).
Sorry, but you are wrong. A ic can only handle so much flow, not pressure. The flow of 200whp will be the same amount of air from a t28 @10psi as a 16g @7psi. But at least you are correct on the Evo core/setup will work perfect for his setup. The core for them is heatsoaked with a maxed out stock turbo (if not before maxed) and with proper piping (2") they wount be any real pressure drop or lag
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cincy
Sorry, but you are wrong. A ic can only handle so much flow, not pressure. The flow of 200whp will be the same amount of air from a t28 @10psi as a 16g @7psi. But at least you are correct on the Evo core/setup will work perfect for his setup. The core for them is heatsoaked with a maxed out stock turbo (if not before maxed) and with proper piping (2") they wount be any real pressure drop or lag
but will my 7psi enough for the evo i/c?? coz i was considering just getting a smaller one for better flow.. do all i/c setups require cutting the crash bar and a portion of the bumper??
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LVLANCER
but will my 7psi enough for the evo i/c?? coz i was considering just getting a smaller one for better flow.. do all i/c setups require cutting the crash bar and a portion of the bumper??
I don't think so. You can get a shorter height IC and I believe still fit under the crash bar. It's something I'm considering since I prefer not to remove a part of the front bumper. Mine is a daily driver. Maybe if I was drag racing I too wouldn't care about removing it.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Its still flow. A stock evo core wont be overkill on a 200whp car. If you use 2" piping you will have little to no pressure loss and close to ambient temps. They are cheap and you can get them to work with little modification (ic to TB).
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Old May 17, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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im just curious on how the intercooler piping would work.. my turbo's outlets are both facing the same way, do i need to remodel one of the turbos outlet to face the other way?? or do i just get piping the goes 180 degrees to face the other way??
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