2008+ turbo kit - from xtremeboost
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first of all, Brian@RRM should keep his mouth shut and his business to himself. thanks to him and his attitude representing RRM, never again will I buy a product from RRM. 
second, ive honestly just been really busy with school, my car, and other things, etc.
yes it did blow, but no matter what people say, it was NOT the KIT or the TUNE*, it was me being boost happy at 9lbs on the highway with an S4 on the way home one weekend.
the reason there is a * next to TUNE, is because supposedly, the dyno that I was tuned on did not have their AFR calibrated right, and apparently EVERYONE who got tuned that day (a LOT of crazy fast Evos) was running lean on the streets. thats just what ive heard. so this leads me to believe that it could have been the shops fault for having a non-proper dyno. it also means that my car could have made even MORE power than it did. so ive learned to buy an AFR gauge
and i am buying one ASAP, but more on that in a sec.
it made 240 whp on a MUSTANG dyno, which, converted, is 288 whp on a Dynojet dyno. My first ever dyno was with an intake and exhaust, and on the SAME EXACT dyno, i got 148 whp. that is a 95% WHEEL horsepower gain. RRMs kit is.....50%?.....crank?
soooo since this happened, im most likely going to get a new car, idk what yet though. in saying that, is anyone interested in a turbo kit??
about that AFR gauge, ive learned my lesson so bad, im putting an AEM UEGO in whatever car i get, turboed or not!
people should really not jump to conclusions.....
oh and yes the car is getting fixed.
but in the end, it was soooooo fun while it lasted haha
second, ive honestly just been really busy with school, my car, and other things, etc.
yes it did blow, but no matter what people say, it was NOT the KIT or the TUNE*, it was me being boost happy at 9lbs on the highway with an S4 on the way home one weekend.
the reason there is a * next to TUNE, is because supposedly, the dyno that I was tuned on did not have their AFR calibrated right, and apparently EVERYONE who got tuned that day (a LOT of crazy fast Evos) was running lean on the streets. thats just what ive heard. so this leads me to believe that it could have been the shops fault for having a non-proper dyno. it also means that my car could have made even MORE power than it did. so ive learned to buy an AFR gauge
and i am buying one ASAP, but more on that in a sec.it made 240 whp on a MUSTANG dyno, which, converted, is 288 whp on a Dynojet dyno. My first ever dyno was with an intake and exhaust, and on the SAME EXACT dyno, i got 148 whp. that is a 95% WHEEL horsepower gain. RRMs kit is.....50%?.....crank?
soooo since this happened, im most likely going to get a new car, idk what yet though. in saying that, is anyone interested in a turbo kit??
about that AFR gauge, ive learned my lesson so bad, im putting an AEM UEGO in whatever car i get, turboed or not!people should really not jump to conclusions.....
oh and yes the car is getting fixed.
but in the end, it was soooooo fun while it lasted haha
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that sucks bro but i rather have a 212-220 whp lancer and last me a long time then a 240+ whp lancer thats going to last me about a month and then blow up that sucks and i cant believe your still bashing rrm and ta l king about how great you turbo was when it blew up lol sucks extremeboosts isnt backing you up too but good luck on your next car hopefully you learned your lesson
ANYONE who installs a turbo kit without a wideband AFR guage, and EGT gauge, whether done by themselves, or having a shop do it, ESPECIALLY a turbo kit thats totally untested and custom, deserves to blow their motor. And i have zero confidence in any turbo kit xtreme boost would EVER put out since they didnt install one themselves. With SO much custom work going into something like that, it requires a while of monitoring. Turbo kits arent things you just slap on, tune it and forget about it. So why the hell would they ever do that on a test car. Whether RRM ever did that or not is beside the point. Xtremeboost should have, and YOU should have known that it needed it too. You could have EASILY saved yourself thousands of dollars in repair costs(regardless of whether the dyno was working properly or not) by just having those two basic things installed, and knowing what your car is supposed to, and not supposed to do. I just think you should step back for a minute, swallow your pride, and really get back to figuring out why you want to tinker with any car. Is it to show off? Or to learn more about your car and become technically proficient with it. Because if it isnt the latter, stick to appearance mods or you're bound to suffer the same mishaps again in the future. With a turbo kit, or something else.
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Honestly yitzac.......i feel for you for having a blown engine and all.........but you kinda deserved it ya know, not only for your whole "i wanna beat this car, i wanna race, i wanna take pictures of my car racing around like the F&F", but also for your complete disregard for knowing your cars limits....
ANYONE who installs a turbo kit without a wideband AFR guage, and EGT gauge, whether done by themselves, or having a shop do it, ESPECIALLY a turbo kit thats totally untested and custom, deserves to blow their motor. And i have zero confidence in any turbo kit xtreme boost would EVER put out since they didnt install one themselves. With SO much custom work going into something like that, it requires a while of monitoring. Turbo kits arent things you just slap on, tune it and forget about it. So why the hell would they ever do that on a test car. Whether RRM ever did that or not is beside the point. Xtremeboost should have, and YOU should have known that it needed it too. You could have EASILY saved yourself thousands of dollars in repair costs(regardless of whether the dyno was working properly or not) by just having those two basic things installed, and knowing what your car is supposed to, and not supposed to do. I just think you should step back for a minute, swallow your pride, and really get back to figuring out why you want to tinker with any car. Is it to show off? Or to learn more about your car and become technically proficient with it. Because if it isnt the latter, stick to appearance mods or you're bound to suffer the same mishaps again in the future. With a turbo kit, or something else.
ANYONE who installs a turbo kit without a wideband AFR guage, and EGT gauge, whether done by themselves, or having a shop do it, ESPECIALLY a turbo kit thats totally untested and custom, deserves to blow their motor. And i have zero confidence in any turbo kit xtreme boost would EVER put out since they didnt install one themselves. With SO much custom work going into something like that, it requires a while of monitoring. Turbo kits arent things you just slap on, tune it and forget about it. So why the hell would they ever do that on a test car. Whether RRM ever did that or not is beside the point. Xtremeboost should have, and YOU should have known that it needed it too. You could have EASILY saved yourself thousands of dollars in repair costs(regardless of whether the dyno was working properly or not) by just having those two basic things installed, and knowing what your car is supposed to, and not supposed to do. I just think you should step back for a minute, swallow your pride, and really get back to figuring out why you want to tinker with any car. Is it to show off? Or to learn more about your car and become technically proficient with it. Because if it isnt the latter, stick to appearance mods or you're bound to suffer the same mishaps again in the future. With a turbo kit, or something else.
when did i say i wanna race around like F&F? lol jeez man, find me a post on the whole internet telling people the limitations of the 4B11 motor in regards to boost. you cant because no one has tested it and blown a motor before me, at least that i know about. what if my car didnt blow up? then that would mean the 4B11 could handle 9 lbs. but it blew, so that just means these motors cant handle that much. I know i should have had AFR and EGT but i needed to get my car running good and everything and it costs money for tunes and dyno time. it was tuned using wideband AFR, but like i said, it could have been the dyno, no one knows for sure! also, xtremeboost DID have a test car before mine and had a running kit for a while and everything, but they had to remove the kit and other non-turbo related problems came about, etc....look in the beginning of this thread! again, no one really knew the limitations of this car before me, so maybe you should be THANKING me for providing you with the information of how much these motors can hold. also, RRMs kit IS just a bolt it on and forget about it kit...it doesnt come with gauges or anything, just the turbo kit. you can choose whether or not to buy the gauges.
No turbo kit is bolt on and go. All turbo kits give you what you need to turbocharge your car, but its up to the owner to be smart and responsible and know you need more than that. Otherwise kits would come with a clutch too.
And the F&F comment was just your way of talking about things. You just seem to fit the mold of typical 15-20yr old kid who wants whatever will get him girls and "respect". You might be different, but the tone of a lot of your posts reads that way. I was that way once, but i also had a 1g Non turbo DSM and i knew i could, but shouldnt turbo it. So i didnt
If the tuner had a faulty dyno, and they didn't tell you until after your motor blew up, it's their fault. If you knew the tune was suspicious but pushed the car anyways, it's entirely your fault and I would suggest you take a break from modding for a while.
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With the exception of a few engines, ALL non turbo cars have limitations, and they all tend to be around the same. 7-9psi with a good tune. You assumed a good tune, but in my experience, nothing can be assumed unless its staring you in the face on a daily basis
No turbo kit is bolt on and go. All turbo kits give you what you need to turbocharge your car, but its up to the owner to be smart and responsible and know you need more than that. Otherwise kits would come with a clutch too.
And the F&F comment was just your way of talking about things. You just seem to fit the mold of typical 15-20yr old kid who wants whatever will get him girls and "respect". You might be different, but the tone of a lot of your posts reads that way. I was that way once, but i also had a 1g Non turbo DSM and i knew i could, but shouldnt turbo it. So i didnt
No turbo kit is bolt on and go. All turbo kits give you what you need to turbocharge your car, but its up to the owner to be smart and responsible and know you need more than that. Otherwise kits would come with a clutch too.
And the F&F comment was just your way of talking about things. You just seem to fit the mold of typical 15-20yr old kid who wants whatever will get him girls and "respect". You might be different, but the tone of a lot of your posts reads that way. I was that way once, but i also had a 1g Non turbo DSM and i knew i could, but shouldnt turbo it. So i didnt
i did not find out about the possibly faulty dyno until about a week after my motor blew. as far as everyone knew on that dyno day, everything went perfectly fine....im thinking of taking legal action against the shop, we'll see...
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it was in the tailpipe, but the af RATIO stays the same all through the piping. this is how every car got tuned, and even on the dynojet dyno when i FIRST got tuned thats how it was done. and again, thats how it was done on that dynojet for all of the other tunes as well. also, you cant really put the sensor in a "proper" location unless you already have a random O2 bung opening in your downpipe or exhaust
i know no turbo kit is literally bolt on and go, i just said that about RRM because you CAN bolt it on and go, as long as you do not mess with the tune or the equipment in any other way and no not turn up the boost and go crazy etc. i do agree on the gauges, clutch, etc. the reason i got a clutch before gauge is because my clutch was going bad and i needed one bad. i also knew that i would be tuned with wideband AFR anyways, so a good clutch was what i decided on first. i can see where you are coming from about the F&F comment lol but im not trying to impress anyone or anything. i already have a gf and she thinks turboing my car was stupid from the beginning haha and i dont necessarily want other people to think im cool and awesome, i just want to be happy lol i dont need respect from other random people to be happy, although i did get a lot of compliments and wide eyes on my car, which was cool. so many people thought it was an evo x, not even joking.
i did not find out about the possibly faulty dyno until about a week after my motor blew. as far as everyone knew on that dyno day, everything went perfectly fine....im thinking of taking legal action against the shop, we'll see...
i did not find out about the possibly faulty dyno until about a week after my motor blew. as far as everyone knew on that dyno day, everything went perfectly fine....im thinking of taking legal action against the shop, we'll see...
Sorry Pumpkin, The shop makes you sign a waiver when you use the Dyno.
Secondly what about all the other cars that got tuned that dyno day? Are they all in jeopardy?
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this is why i have my lc-1 xd-16 gauge ready to go into my 09 when i order the turbo.
I think i'll have to go with RRM because so far they have the safest tune and im not about to go to a shop and have them guess a tune on a new car that isn't made for a turbo.
p.s yiztac i have an extra lc-1 xd16 for sale if u are still needing one
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/no...kit-280-a.html
250+ whatever shipping is
I think i'll have to go with RRM because so far they have the safest tune and im not about to go to a shop and have them guess a tune on a new car that isn't made for a turbo.
p.s yiztac i have an extra lc-1 xd16 for sale if u are still needing one
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/no...kit-280-a.html
250+ whatever shipping is
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sorry pumpkin
really people??
It's your word against theirs and since you signed a waiver, it's going to be an uphill battle for you. Are you really willing to pay thousands in legal fees to get a few thousand back?