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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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Everyday there are some little punks that decide to give me a thumbs down even if they lose. Most of them are those ***** *** honda owners, others, get this mitsubishi owners. I win a little more than half the time, but if I lose I give a friendly wave and go on. I have come to the conclusion that they are jealous, but when I get that rrm turbo on my car I will rub it in their ghetto *** faces so much, I will take pleasure in doing so. I was just wondering if anyone else has had these people with character defficient cars be total *******s for no reason?! That is what the turbo is for!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by trance
To put it simple in buisness terms...
"supply & demand"
Why lower a price on something that there is a demand on?
That would be like telling Mitsubishi to lower the price on the Evolution because you bought a Lancer but really want a Evo.
So far RRM is the only company that seems to make a full turbo kit that is made for our Lancers...now maybe if Lancer turbos could be found at every autozone or pep boys then maybe they would be cheaper.
You have to remember...RRM is still a buisness , they will help us out any way they can (like they allways do) but if they no longer make money then how can they stay in buisness?
Actually the "supply and demand" theory is the opposite. Take computers for instance. High demand, more companies start building and selling them and competing for your money so they start lowering their prices for you money. What we have here is a monopoly.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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I looked into custom too. I added up all the stuff plus having to do a lot of learning to make sure I don't blow stuff up. RRM turbo seems a better way to go. I don't want to blow my stuff up cause I wanted to save $300 or $500 bucks. Roadrace has it all figured out. RPW doesn't from what I can tell. Ther leave it up to the customer to figure it out. F#$k that. I want my car fast and reliable. It is my daily D so........ Guess I will save up for RRM turbo.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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i do like the rrm kit i just think what im mostly disappointed about it that even the intercooled kit would only push maybe 190whp am i right? which means you can barely keep up with gsts? someone who has this kit or ROCK do you have any 1/4 mile times for this kit? i want the kit very bad im just wondering if its gonna be worth it or not.....i just wish the rumors were true and you could swap the 4g63 into the lancer that would be a great platform...
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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you could swap a 4g63... its just not cost effective... i understand if the 4g94 motor was straight garbage... but its not... well with some internals........im sure the lancer will kick major ***.... i paid 15k for my car... i got what i paid for... and i aint complaining.. =) but back on topic... i still need to save up for this kit... but rock... will it be possible to get only certain parts of the kit?? like i dont need the blow off valve... or the waste gate or the intercooler or the k&n filter... would that be possible??
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by PFLANCER02
i do like the rrm kit i just think what im mostly disappointed about it that even the intercooled kit would only push maybe 190whp am i right?
Nope nope nope. Don't know where you got your info but if you go to www.roadracemotorsports.com it says and I quote "Capable of 230+ W.H.P." for the intercooled kit. Just wanted to make sure you knew it was 40 whp difference than what you thought. RRM owns!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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ThE reason i wanted a sale is because i own a retail shop and every always asked for GOOD DAMN DEALS!!! SCUBA Diving so i just figured it wouldn't hurt to try. But i talked to insurance today and they where cool about the turbo now i just need to sell my ATV and Bike and here comes turbo......
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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ok did you also see how it says CAPABLE??? does it say hey if you bolt on this kit on yer stock lancer you will push 250 at the wheels..? i dont think so...you can prolly go upto 250whp on that turbo...but to achieve that your prolly lookin at upin the boost and i believe stock pistons only can hold upto 6psi so you would have to get new ones...
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Nope nope nope. Don't know where you got your info but if you go to www.roadracemotorsports.com it says and I quote "Capable of 230+ W.H.P." for the intercooled kit. Just wanted to make sure you knew it was 40 whp difference than what you thought. RRM owns!!!
Capable of, yes. There is no US Lancer I know of with an RRM turbo pushing that many horsepower.

Even to hold 190 you'll need built internals and a lot more stuff than just a bolt on kit. Can this turbo pull it off? Absolutley. RRM knows the stuff better than anyone. Can your motor handle what the turbo can give you? Absolutely not.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Not only is the motor a bottleneck for the amount of power that the turbo can push out... but u gotta factor in the transmission too (whether it be manual or auto).
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Capable of, yes. There is no US Lancer I know of with an RRM turbo pushing that many horsepower.

Even to hold 190 you'll need built internals and a lot more stuff than just a bolt on kit. Can this turbo pull it off? Absolutley. RRM knows the stuff better than anyone. Can your motor handle what the turbo can give you? Absolutely not.
i am failry certain boe is in this range and so is rrm's shop lancer. like you said a few extra tweaks are needed
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by PFLANCER02
hey "trance" i wasnt saying a civic kit would fit a lancer you ****in tool...all im saying is all turbo kits basically consist of piping...turbo...fmic...etc...all i have to say tho is that paying 4gs and more considering you need the turbo gauges and ecu reflash and also some type of air/fuel managment ,to keep up with a gst and still get smoked by a barely modified WRX is ****ing hurtin!...im done...

i love my lancer but i would say go custom if you can depending on price and quality or buy a car that is meant to go fast...late
You know what...I'm gona be the bigger man and not reply to your ignorant comment.
And there is no room or need for profanity on the forums.
If you have beef with me do it with PM

Just a thought...If you feel a price is too much for a product...simply don't buy it instead about *****ing about it.

and hmmm??? stock Lancer HP...120
stock WRX HP...227
and you wounder why Mitsubishi brought over the Evo?

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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Capable of, yes. There is no US Lancer I know of with an RRM turbo pushing that many horsepower.

Even to hold 190 you'll need built internals and a lot more stuff than just a bolt on kit. Can this turbo pull it off? Absolutley. RRM knows the stuff better than anyone. Can your motor handle what the turbo can give you? Absolutely not.
Alright I am going to get my turbo within the next 2 weeks or so. (I already put a big down on it and putting rest on it tomorrow probably) Even though I am getting non intercooled I think I can be right around 200 whp. But when I get it done I am going to DYNO it and then we will see how much the non intercooled kit can get alright. And boe has to be atleast 230 whp.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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this engine def can handle 190 to the wheels without building up internals, it just cant handle high boosting, a stock lancer with a turbo is looking at 170s easily, whose to say another 20 hp isnt capable with the rest of road race's bolt ons? and thats without building up the internals, i can tell you i saw an engine boosted at 9psi for about a year, i saw internals, pistons, everything was fine
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Everyone is an expert so I will have some imput too.

Use these numbers from now on.

dynoed Non IC - automatic /5 psi - 174 w.h.p.
dynoed non IC - 5 speed/ 7 psi- 200 w.h.p.
dynoed non IC - 5 speed /8 psi- 218 wh.p. (BOE's car)
Boe's car now -IC/ 9 psi for sure 230ish w.h.p.
RRM Project Car- IC/ 11-13 psi projected 260-270 w.h.p. = 300 .h.p. at the crank.

REMEMBER WRX 227 h.p. is not to the wheels! Figure 180-90 to the wheels. We got that beat with 7 psi non-ic kit.
EVO 8 is 271 h.p. at the crank and 240ish to the wheels. Just some reference numbers for you.

This is the OFFICIAL word not speculation !

ROAD/RACE

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/
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