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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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ive had my throttle cable melt, waste gate come off, and my oil return line leaks where the pipe off the turbo meets the hose and i have a wide band o2 sensor and it runs very lean under boost...but it still runs. im having a one peice steel braided line put in also so that should fix and getting some turbo insulation and that should fix the throttle cable melting, i put different bolts and lock washers on my waste gate and fixed that, now only if i could fix the lean problem i would be happy
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Wow what a post.... to my suprise though i believe the only one who has contacted RRM about any of these issues is Goku... at least that talked to me. First off the oil return line is only a problem if over tightened... then you actually collapse the tube and the seal is gone. It really doesn't need to be that tight as it has no pressure in it. It is simply a dump/return to the oil pan. This problem is an install error and has happened more than a few times. This is noted in the instructions! As for fuel lines coming off that is again an install error where attention to detail was not adhered to. Goku's problem is a stumper but some new info has me on a fix...

Goku... give me a call at RRM!

As for the engine bay catching on fire... this will not happen due to the heat wrap... that is nearly impossible to catch on fire unless you reach temps well over 2000 degrees F. But if it gets soaked in oil from a leaking return pipe spraying out on it then it is bound to happen. The oil actually caught fire and the wrap then supported the blaze. WHY were you driving around with that leak anyway?? There is a real laps in good judgement... not only could you have blown the motor/turbo but you could have had an accident from oil on your tires...etc. Seems like that issue is one you should kick yourself for not RRM.

There are many kits out there... on stock pistons doing fine... in fact the only ones that have had issues are those who did not adhere to our warnings... don't over boost, don't run with leaks, don't hesitate to call if something is a miss. Simple things that could have prevented all these catastrophies. In short RRM gives you a powerful weapon in which you can go around destroying others if you keep it clean and in proper working order. It is not RRMs fault if you decide to say the hell with it all and point the gun at your head then MASH ON IT!!

RRM jumps through many hoops to deliver reliable products... the turbo kit is currently going through carb cert and is in testing phase right now. It is passing with flying colors and a kit like this won't pass if there was beliefe that it could have negative effects when installed properly.

The instructions are really complete and give you more than any other kit out there. Attention to detail and a comprehensive knowledge of simple fundamental mechanical skills is required. Also take your time... everyone wants to rush and get going but the error in that could show with a blown motor. If you don't feel comfortable have it installed by a professional... at least then if there is a leak or something comes loose you can attack them. The reason there can be no warranty on the kit is due to these facts. If people install themselves and mess it up why should RRM have to pay or waste money/time figuring out whats wrong.

In the end RRM is there for every lancer owner and will always be. Don't bag on them due to your own personnal mistakes or mis-judgements. Instead be adults about it and admit where the fauld lies and get it corrected so you can move on.

Sorry for the long speech but just had to point out the obvious and put an end to some of the misconceptions/mis-placed comments towards RRM and their kit.

BOE @ RRM
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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hey boe everybody that has seen my non inter. kit loves it they all rave about the workmanship of the kit.rrm was at no fault to my mistake everything was very straight forward.was not on tight and when we let the car idle fo 15 min it was fine but when we went down the road it came off it was the one that went from the fmu to the fuel rail.i did not know came off or i would have stop i knew something was wrong when the car had no power and would die when i would shift i drove straight back to the shop about 4 miles away found the problem and fixed it.everything was perfect after that and the power was crazy, i drove it around all that night and was showing a buddy of mine when the engine let go. i floored in 1st hit redline shifted to second then the car died. #3 piston top chunk broke off. my pistons will be here today tell gabe thanks and i will be up and running by monday.my fault nobody else to blame.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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All the probelms I have heard sound like install problems. Stuff that doesn't break just stuff that people installed wrong and came loose or something. I have seen 3 or 4 of these kits and they are really nice. Even read Sport Compact Car issue that highlighted it and voted it a quality kit for the Lancer. Stick to the facts! RRM kit is NOT the problem. The install sonds like the problem! Turboing stuff is no joke. You to pay attention to details when you install stuff. Everything counts.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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I'm just curious what happened with waggi. I still don't know why we have two threads in one here. Jamie, you should really start your own threads when you have separate problems like this.

EDIT: I am inclined to agree about the botched install thing though. I've seen no reason to believe the RRM kit won't run precisely as intended 99.99% of the time if installed properly and driven within the recommended psi range.

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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Its all related Hobie so i think we are fine here... also it will give us a chance to talk to everyone at once...

Jamie hitting red line when under boost or nos is very very bad... i'm sure you already know that. At least now you will be good to go for bigger and better just sorry it happened like that.

As for Waggi... it seems to me he overtightened the return pipe, like the instructions warn against, and the leak started spraying everywhere under the hood. Instead of correcting before driving further he continued to drive and the oil soaked the heat wrap... then fire... then... well you've seen the rest. I really hate seeing things like this happen to anyone but the details are important.

The kit is an eye popper as well as a suprise when you take some one out on the road. It's just sad how some of the simplest/best things can get so out of hand by simple oversights. Oh well.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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WOW!!!! People seem to throw these kits on with what it seems to be little knowledge and preparation. To Jamie: Im suprised you didnt warp your head...are you even monitoring anything like EGTS then you would have known something was up. You must have been running extremely lean generating tons of heat. The grinding so that was from you piston? Sorry to hear that. How much boost were you running to cause that? Has the shop done a compression or leak down test yet? That is something you may want to have checked IMO.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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just for the records I don't blame RRM for anything that has happened to my car. I do take responsiblity for what happened. as for being dumb and driving the car with the oil leak. my buddy and i noticed it right away and took the turbo out and tried to fix the problem. then once we had thought the problem was fixed i drove the car again. While driving the car that time i noticed the same thing, so once again the turbo came out and we checked evrything over. It was after this last time that we checked it that the heat wrap that was covered in oil started on fire. I love the kit and RRM has done a great job designing it. The only complaint i have is i feel that the oil return line should be one piece, that is all. Other than that the kit is the best thing I have done to this car. What I am waiting for now is the parts I need to replace so i can get the car back up and running properly.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 03:42 AM
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Wow, I'm going to buy Zlancers kit on tues or wed. uhm.. i think im gonna have to call u boe and order some pistons first
dont even want to go through the trouble of always rebuilding my engine. First thing when i get home.. making the call to cali and gonna order me some pistons yikes another 700 bones out of my pocket.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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Got to love the JE's!
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Can't wait till I fix my engine so I can order some too. I just hope Rob, Gabe or you (Boe) will help me in trying to get a special order ceramic coated set. Big plans and all...prolly gonna be a while before I get them anyway, so I guess we'll see.
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