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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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OK so I came to the conclusion that theres something wrong with my turbo, when I start it up it sounds like a metal noise inside the turbo, its really noticeable when you start it and rev it. The turbo will spool up just fine, but when im driving I can here the noise. I also had my brother rev the car a few times, and i saw a little bit of black smoke just a small bit. So what im thinking is, there is shaft play "which I will test sunday or monday", the oil leak problem could be from the turbo itself because I tightened the hell out of that flange.

Im going to buy a new turbo and try to push this one I have for another month or so. So this is what im looking at

A.) Buy a stock evo 9 turbo, brand new retarded people keep selling thier used turbos cheap because theres something wrong with them

B.)buy me a GT35R and sell my turbo mani and get one that will fit this turbo
http://store.max-redline.com/servlet/-strse-538/Detail

C.)Save up for like a few months and buy an FP turbo red, green, black rainbow whatever lol , "since I plan on doing pistons and rods by next june or july.


Im also doing my 3" exhaust upgrade as well at the same time
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 04:00 AM
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Now you're getting to the point where you need to look at the maps for each turbo, and see which one fits the range/goal you have for your car. My recommendation is still to use a 16g from an evo8, just because it's very efficient it seems for the range we can run on stock internals. If you go all out with pistons at some point, then it's going to work well there too.

As a side note though, you can rebuild a 16g turbo like mitsukid just recently did, and I think JRR said he has in the past for much less than a used turbo...and definitely less than a new one.

You also "know what you have" if you rebuild your current one, as opposed to like you say, buying another used one. I'm going to be xtra ticked if my turbo smokes when i finally get around to installing. Anywho, not the point. I think you should make sure you've got shaft play, and also see if there is evidence of oil on them turbine fins.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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Now you're getting to the point where you need to look at the maps for each turbo, and see which one fits the range/goal you have for your car. My recommendation is still to use a 16g from an evo8, just because it's very efficient it seems for the range we can run on stock internals. If you go all out with pistons at some point, then it's going to work well there too.

As a side note though, you can rebuild a 16g turbo like mitsukid just recently did, and I think JRR said he has in the past for much less than a used turbo...and definitely less than a new one.

You also "know what you have" if you rebuild your current one, as opposed to like you say, buying another used one. I'm going to be xtra ticked if my turbo smokes when i finally get around to installing. Anywho, not the point. I think you should make sure you've got shaft play, and also see if there is evidence of oil on them turbine fins.
i agree about the maps. that involves a bunch of calculations though..
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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so basically if I want to build a 300 hp lancer I can still use this turbo to accomplish that? I just want to double check I believe the evo 8 turbo is good up to 400 hp
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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yes it would be cool to go with that turbo but also remember, how fast do you want it to spool? what are you trying to achieve there?
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by steven121
so basically if I want to build a 300 hp lancer I can still use this turbo to accomplish that? I just want to double check I believe the evo 8 turbo is good up to 400 hp
Of course you can bro ppl take these in evos to beyond 300hp constantly. FP is real overkill but I am not one to discourage . Do it however you feel you want it. I have tried looking at compressor maps of turbos and it confuses me pretty easily haha but oh well I will learn it if I ever need to.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HornstarBU
Now you're getting to the point where you need to look at the maps for each turbo, and see which one fits the range/goal you have for your car. My recommendation is still to use a 16g from an evo8, just because it's very efficient it seems for the range we can run on stock internals. If you go all out with pistons at some point, then it's going to work well there too.

As a side note though, you can rebuild a 16g turbo like mitsukid just recently did, and I think JRR said he has in the past for much less than a used turbo...and definitely less than a new one.

You also "know what you have" if you rebuild your current one, as opposed to like you say, buying another used one. I'm going to be xtra ticked if my turbo smokes when i finally get around to installing. Anywho, not the point. I think you should make sure you've got shaft play, and also see if there is evidence of oil on them turbine fins.
Make sure when you and if you decide to rebuild it...get it rebalanced...i couldnt find anyone around here to do it, and i think the combo of it not being balanced and the shaft being a bit worn (the shaft doesnt come with the rebuld kit, and when i installed the new bearings onto the shaft, there was still some play from it being worn) my turbo is yet again blowing smoke.. So in my situation im just goin to buy another TD05HR 16G turbo and hope that it lasts a little longer.. because the options i have to be safe is buy a brand new turbo, buy a used one and hope that it works good, or buy a new center section, a rebuild kit, and a new shaft and use my existing compressor casing. Im sort of undecided..its ether buy a used one or buy the parts for a COMPLETE rebuild..but then i still have to find someone to balance it... ill prob just get a used one, and hope it works out.

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Make sure when you and if you decide to rebuild it...get it rebalanced...i couldnt find anyone around here to do it, and i think the combo of it not being balanced and the shaft being a bit worn (the shaft doesnt come with the rebuld kit, and when i installed the new bearings onto the shaft, there was still some play from it being worn) my turbo is yet again blowing smoke.. So in my situation im just goin to buy another TD05HR 16G turbo and hope that it lasts a little longer.. because the options i have to be safe is buy a brand new turbo, buy a used one and hope that it works good, or buy a new center section, a rebuild kit, and a new shaft and use my existing compressor casing. Im sort of undecided..its ether buy a used one or buy the parts for a COMPLETE rebuild..but then i still have to find someone to balance it... ill prob just get a used one, and hope it works out.
I hear you can mail them away and have it done by a reputable company for pretty cheap. Downtime for your car is painful, I understand that, but I think it's worth the wait rather than rush through it and be imbalanced.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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I hear you can mail them away and have it done by a reputable company for pretty cheap. Downtime for your car is painful, I understand that, but I think it's worth the wait rather than rush through it and be imbalanced.
Yeah, also what happens if i didnt prime the turbo? When i installed the turbo, both when i first installed it, and after the rebuild, i just started the car and let it idle, i never primed the turbo...how bad is this for the turbo? Is this what may have caused permenant damage to the turbo??
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Yeah, also what happens if i didnt prime the turbo? When i installed the turbo, both when i first installed it, and after the rebuild, i just started the car and let it idle, i never primed the turbo...how bad is this for the turbo? Is this what may have caused permenant damage to the turbo??
Sort of depends. The first time, it was probably not very good for the turbo. If the turbo just came out of a car and had fresh oil in there, I can't see a whole lot of damage occuring. If the turbo had been sitting for a logn time dry, then more damage might occur.

The second time you replaced the turbo, the oil was already in the oil feed, so might be like it was already primed, unless you drainged the oil or something to remove that from the oil feed line.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 05:08 AM
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Sort of depends. The first time, it was probably not very good for the turbo. If the turbo just came out of a car and had fresh oil in there, I can't see a whole lot of damage occuring. If the turbo had been sitting for a logn time dry, then more damage might occur.

The second time you replaced the turbo, the oil was already in the oil feed, so might be like it was already primed, unless you drainged the oil or something to remove that from the oil feed line.
Ill make sure when i get this other turbo here ill prime the feed line to be safe
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