So I just picked up a lancer for really cheap and I'm trying to get some info on turboing. It has just rolled over 100k miles with no motor issues at all. So would it be a safe idea to turbo with only about 6 to 7 lbs. Or should I just wait longer and go forged internals. I have the money now to turbo. But not enough to forge and turbo

 

It depends on what you want really. How fast do you want it? I run 10 pounds now with stock internals, have been for a year pushing it hard with no issues. If your wanting to run more you could wait for the forged internals.

 

i ran 15 on stock but thats not without a lot of tuning and tweaking. i still got turbo parts laying around that i need to get rid of, so lmk if yur interested.

but yes figure a number you want to hit and then research what you need.


josh

 

Right now I am just looking for about 200 2 215 hp. I figure I could probably get that off 7 2 10 lbs. With a few bolt ons. I figure later on when I want more I can forge

 

Yes jrr I am very interested in what u have. If u could just let me know what u have. U can pm me if ud like

 

^^pmed

 

you can run up to 15 like jrr said on stock internals but like he said its all on the tune im running 11 psi right now im just getting my ltfts straighten out

 

Ok. Thank u Josh and Steven. I guess well just do it and see where it takes me. Hey Josh how is that 14b compared to the 16g. And the shaft play on it

 

^^got the pm and sent it back...

 

Hmm i didnt know you could run up to 15 pounds !
I might just turn it up to 12 Psi
Haha

Is it still as safe as running 10 pounds though ?
As far as tunning it go's i work with one of the best tunners in Texas so that wouldn't be a problem .

 

well like i said tho...just watch yur tune...a knock free engine is a happy engine and as long as the afr's stay low 11's high 10's then yur pretty good there.

i spent almost 3 weeks tuning my car every night about 2-3 hours to get it right. that got expensive but it was worth it.

and also remember that your engine may pop at 10 psi for all we know. mine held at 15 but i didnt like it there. one reason i spent some money and got a greddy profec b spec 2 bcs. do a compression test before turning up the boost. and if yur gonna turn it up do it slowly because even 1 psi higher and you could blow the engine.....

my $.02

josh

 

Thanks man , my motor has about 15k miles since i rebuilt it (Oem internals) and did a compression test that showed 240 across the board . Mine was tunned in about 20 mins (Haha) and drives perfectly with the stock Ecu , auto , 399 maf . The A/f Is also 11.2-11.5 at wot with 14-15 A/f when cruising . Hmm not sure if i want to risk it .

Also i was told my motor knocks alot ? I have seen many people on there builds also say that ?
False knock ? My car has almost no timing and it still knocks . Does it have anything to do that i am on stock Ecu or that the knock sensor should be changed out with a Evo sensor ?
I know that the timing was all removed and knock was still present but on the dyno knock seemed false since when adding timing the motor was still picking up Hp .

 

I have noticed this is the case alot with people who are tuning themselves. I have been adjusting my knock settings now on the evo rom and I believe I have gotten rid of my fase knock up high. My mid range load levels seem to still be knock happy but adjusting knock settings can be risky and I do not recommend it without thoroughly researching it. I have been cautiously adjusting my settings for the past couple of months now. I do not believe 15 psi is safe for any of us with stock internals daily driving and I am sure JRR woud agree. I plan on possibly upping it to 12psi as soon as I am satisfied I have removed and false knock so I can get a good tune

 

+1 with 03lance, im running 11 psi as mentioned before but its not recommended, I accidently pushed to 14 psi and that even freaked me out. But for the knock issue im not sure how that works im really thinking about getting an evo knock sensor and trying that since the knock filter is for an evo motor anyways.

also im with JRR as well if you turn up the boost do it 1 psi at a time because you could not have a motor in the first place.

im running 10's for afrs I havent had a chance to check my ltfts but im almost there then its all about dialing in the afrs and my tune is complete, but I cant forget about knocks. does anyone know the voltage for false knocks?



plus I saved you youtube video on my favs

 

I am told 0-1v is generally false knock 1-2v may or may not be and 3-5v is generally real knock. This is coming straight from one of the main tuners from english racing so I am inclined to believe him