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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Ok so im a newb still to the lancer, I got my intake and exhaust. Im trying to decide whether i should save up for turbo or not. Can some one plz explain PSI to me? are there beter turbos out there than RRM's? cause 4k sounds a like alot. also is there any advantages to not puttin a turbo in. ive heard of detonating your engine, what and how does that happen. oh yeah does a turbo shorten your engines life?

Yeah i know those r a bunch of newb questions but if someone can help me out id really appreciate it!!!
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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psi stands for "pounds per square inch". check out www.howthingswork.com and look up turbos.

rrm is generally cinsidered the best turbo option for our car. there are other options like rpw, but the majority of turbo lancers are rrm.

advantages? save money, longer car life, etc.

detonation is when your air fuel ratio is too lean (too much air) and it causes detonation, very bad. this could happen by sucking in tons of air and not having upgraded injecctors to get mroe fuel along with the air.

turbo does shorten motor life, generally.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nm0ney34
Ok so im a newb still to the lancer, I got my intake and exhaust. Im trying to decide whether i should save up for turbo or not. Can some one plz explain PSI to me? are there beter turbos out there than RRM's? cause 4k sounds a like alot. also is there any advantages to not puttin a turbo in. ive heard of detonating your engine, what and how does that happen. oh yeah does a turbo shorten your engines life?

Yeah i know those r a bunch of newb questions but if someone can help me out id really appreciate it!!!

Ohh man. You are hitting some very broad subjects here. First of all, go to www.hotstuffworks.com and learn how turbochargers work. Also learn some thing about engine/fuel mangment / rich and lean / backpressure and a fw other things. See the good thing is that aftermarket companies for the lancer have already made Turbo kits for your car. Just you have to make sure that it is a full bolt kit that comes with engine managment. Also you should check if the kit has any known problems of reliability. Basicaly check to see if its 'proven'. But other than that, I personally think that Turbo is the best way to go rather than NA on a 4-clyinder motor such as yours. $4000 seems just about right for a full bolt on kit that can provide good power. I hope I helped with some insight. Good luck!

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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Thanks guys, so i was wondering approximatly how many horses can i get up to with a N/A setup? and how much does the turbo kill the engine cause this is my daily driver that i will need for a few years
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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there are a few ppl that have had the tuebo kit for a long while, ive only had it for a few months, and they are still fine.

with an NA setup i dont know but wouldnt be able to get even close to even a nonintercooled turbo kit.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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I'm going for n\a setup ... gettin ready to throw down $3000 in parts.. then another 2000-3000 near the end of summer (internals).. hopefully have the full setup tuned and running before the end of the summer.. maybe have enough for a torque converter and tranny cooler by the end of the year!

Anyways, people always say that there isn't going to be enough power coming from the lancer with n\a setup... but i'm gunna give it a shot and see where it goes.. (and yes i know its never going to be as fast as FI setups, so dont flame about that )

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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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by the way, speaking of disadvatages of putting in a turbo .... bad install + bad luck = blow engine = usually more than cost of turbo\install in repair costs Think about that.

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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lancerozr
I'm going for n\a setup ... gettin ready to throw down $3000 in parts.. then another 2000-3000 near the end of summer (internals).. hopefully have the full setup tuned and running before the end of the summer.. maybe have enough for a torque converter and tranny cooler by the end of the year!

Anyways, people always say that there isn't going to be enough power coming from the lancer with n\a setup... but i'm gunna give it a shot and see where it goes.. (and yes i know its never going to be as fast as FI setups, so dont flame about that )

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Hey I know this is WAY off topic so sorry in advance, I read your old post about N/A options, I think its pretty cool your going the road less traveled, PM me and let me know what setup you decided on.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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werd, will do .. send me a pm and remind me if i dont update you by like.. mid july heh

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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yeah little off topic, but how much hp/tq do u plan to gain by just N/A setup?

Ive heard people say N/A can only get to around 170 hp. That true or can u go higher?
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Turbo - seems cheaper with more bang for your buck in terms of gaining HP. I mean, look at that one guy who just siad he is going to prob drop 5K into his car, and pehraps be maybe around 190HP where u can get the RRM IC turbo kit for 4K and be around 200Hp+.

I would say go for turbo, easier and less hasle and you get to experience the feeling of been thrown back into your seat when hte turbo spools up.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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you can get higher with a N/A setup. It depends on how deep your pockets are, how much knowledge you have and how mechanicle you are. There is not a lot of nessessary N/A parts available to get you over the 200hp mark. but it can be custom made. (ex. Cam Gears)
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Ya - he was complaining that 4K was too much for a turbo kit, so im guessing his pockets arent too deep (most of us dont have deep pockets) so if he wants a faster car, but doesnt have that much money, turbo would be the best route for him.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nm0ney34
yeah little off topic, but how much hp/tq do u plan to gain by just N/A setup?

Ive heard people say N/A can only get to around 170 hp. That true or can u go higher?
maybe you could get that amount at the crank but i doubt even that.

nobody really knows tho bc logically nobody has tried going all out with NA for our car.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IILANCERII02
Turbo - seems cheaper with more bang for your buck in terms of gaining HP. I mean, look at that one guy who just siad he is going to prob drop 5K into his car, and pehraps be maybe around 190HP where u can get the RRM IC turbo kit for 4K and be around 200Hp+.

I would say go for turbo, easier and less hasle and you get to experience the feeling of been thrown back into your seat when hte turbo spools up.

there is no way that an NA setup will get you to 190hp even at the crank.

and the rrm IC turbo will only get oyu to 200 at eh crank not wheels.
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