Well if you want to play Mr. Smart on the forum and impress everybody cause you apperantly know it all. That's how it was explained to me. If you want specifics then call NOS, Nitrous Works, ZEX, Nitrous Express, Dave Nitrous, then you can get the answer you want. I didn't invent the damn **** I just know it works! Final!

 

I don't understand why everyone is so scared of nitrous. People have been using that stuff for years. It's safe if you follow the instructions and don't go crazy with the nozzle size. And it's a whole lot cheaper than a turbo kit. Nitrous can hurt your engine, so can a turbo. Just have to do it right.

 

Except you don't know how it works. Whoever explained it to you was wrong, a simple google search shows that.

 

I don't think most people are scared so to speak. There are some dangers with it. As Amby has stated you will run higher pressures and temps even with the nitros cooling so to speak. IMO, Nitros is bad for what i consider the weakest part of the engine, the cylinder head and head gasket. The gasket will only take so much abuse before it starts to leak. It doesn't take long at high engine temps to warp the head or even the block itself, they are aluminum. If you guys want to use it that is fine, and i have no issues with that. I think my issues against it are there is no advantage with it in road racing or autocross. in fact according to SCCA rules, you have to remove the bottle before you can compete. As for road racing Amby is probably a better source of info for that but i can't see an advantage there either. Maybe in drag racing. As for the oxygen thing, Mass Flow sensor measure Mass Flow of a gas or liquid but give no regard to what it is composed of. Maybe the MAF senses the air and nitros combined and sees a Mass Flow increase and the ECU increases fuel. I know nothing about nitros though.

 

If you're serious about racing, nitrous can be a hell of a good mod but I haven't seen any amateur road racing teams use it. So far, the only cars I know of that use nitrous are either drag cars or heavily modified, heavily sponsored time attack cars (like the Gumball or Jawbreaker car, I can't remember the exact name). They don't use nitrous as a replacement for other mods, they use it in conjunction with other mods. The cars I'm thinking of have big turbos, fully built motors, fully built transmission, heavily modified fuel systems, etc, etc. They sure as hell don't use a dry kit, they sure as hell don't run it untuned and they sure as hell don't complain when something blows up.
The MAF has no way to decipher that nitrous was sprayed into the motor. Car makers do not design the MAF to measure all known gases, it only has to know how much air is going in, that's it.

 

Amby is right.

How do you know your ECU is adding more fuel?
Can you even log knock?

Or are you just assuming and listening to what the nitrous companies want you to hear.

 

Or what his friend's told him after watching Fast and the Furious.

 

you dont see many import tuner cars using nos.. 90% of the people ive seen with it in their car were mustang owners or a car with some sort of an LS motor

 

Believe what you want... it's ok. Go figure it out for yourself. Nothing else from me.

 

Yea guess i should have let you speak for road racing. As I have stated before I am going to do road racing, but not that farmiliar with it. Based on what you have stated hear i'm pretty sure i'll never use nitros. I am somewhat of a novice budget racer and my budget has grown considerably just autocrossing and the finance officer (my wife) has started to notice so i'm not sure how deep i'll get into road racing. The MAF thing, i was reaching a little. i know it only measures mass air flow and translates that to a voltage level for the ECU.

 

We'll believes facts thank you very much, not what a friend of a friend told you about nitrous.

 

hey did you ever get around to shooting some videos of it in action

 

Was going to but there's no point nothing but hate on evolutionm.net, If you want to see it you can pm me!

 

ahaha you dont put nos in a lancer haha

 

Dry:
A dry shot relies on the car's MAF, PCM, and fuel system to add the proper amount of fuel to balance the nitrous out. That is, the nitrous is sprayed in front of the MAF, which recognizes a sudden spike in O2 and signals the PCM, which decides the proper amount of fuel needed to balance the mixture. It is the cheapest of the setups to purchase. It also leaves no chance of fuel "puddling" in the intake. The weak point in this system is the car's fuel system. The dry shot is limited to the car's ability to increase fuel. Often a shot will find the weak spot in the fuel system, be it the injectors, the fuel pump, etc. Spraying N2O without the fuel to support it equals the kiss of death for your car.