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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Remember that the new ROM will have the high and low octane maps set up properly. You'll be on the the High Octane maps like you're supposed to be.
Ok so i should leave them alone and logg first? Then make changes as i log?

Originally Posted by HornstarBU
when he copies in (notice the way I'm sort of hi-jacking) his small map, into this much bigger map, what's the perscribed method for filling in the surrounding areas?

Does he keep all of his 0-100 load "stock" or basically what he has in his existing ROM? And how should he fill in the stuff greater than 100?
+1 is my car automatically going to be seeing over 100% load now?

Your not hijacking bro i made this thread for all and any ecuflash/ tactrix cable questions open to anyone that wants to budge in!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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I just got mine today
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Tactrix cable??
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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I suggest using the XLS file posted in the Main Tephra V7 thread in the ECUFlash forum. It ill convert your maps over to the new, larger format. Basically, it'll just copy over the last column and row a bunch in your case.

Yes, you should automatically see over 100 load now. I would suggest taking cues from some of the Evo maps posted in the forum and then make them a little more tame for your use ... richen the fuel and pull out some timing. Go from there.

Let's be honest ... you're running at 14:1 with knock counts in the teens ... not hard to guess and be better than that for the first map.

the best advice I can give is to toggle on the knock light in the Tephra options and set the threshold low ... like 1 or 2 over 100 load or so. Watch that light and let off as soon as you see it come on. Review logs, make changes, repeat ... then when you've got a good base map, move the threshold up to 3 and fine tune with full pulls to redline.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitsu.kid.02
Tactrix cable??
This kit even though I think I order too many cables I think the cable on the left if for evo 8-9.

I have no idea what ,I'm doing so this will be a learning experiance

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
I suggest using the XLS file posted in the Main Tephra V7 thread in the ECUFlash forum. It ill convert your maps over to the new, larger format. Basically, it'll just copy over the last column and row a bunch in your case.

Yes, you should automatically see over 100 load now. I would suggest taking cues from some of the Evo maps posted in the forum and then make them a little more tame for your use ... richen the fuel and pull out some timing. Go from there.

Let's be honest ... you're running at 14:1 with knock counts in the teens ... not hard to guess and be better than that for the first map.

the best advice I can give is to toggle on the knock light in the Tephra options and set the threshold low ... like 1 or 2 over 100 load or so. Watch that light and let off as soon as you see it come on. Review logs, make changes, repeat ... then when you've got a good base map, move the threshold up to 3 and fine tune with full pulls to redline.
Great advise! ok i will do that! Well im not sure if i will be at 14:1 now, i was at 14:1 becasue the car wasnt getting into open loop when i was already in boost!! so it still strived for 14.7:1!! But since the tephra map has lower values to get into open loop more sooner, and with new maps and what not im curious to see if my ARF are still going to be that high. well see when i do some logs!!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
This kit even though I think I order too many cables I think the cable on the left if for evo 8-9.

I have no idea what ,I'm doing so this will be a learning experiance
You're fine, the tactrix OP2 plugs in to the OBD2 plug, the lil white plug goes right next to it, and conects to the OP2 and the usb cable ties them into your laptop
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
This kit even though I think I order too many cables I think the cable on the left if for evo 8-9.

I have no idea what ,I'm doing so this will be a learning experiance


Awesome bro! read through this thread and i bet it will help ya a little bit! And do some searching as well! If you need specific help and what not post it up in here! Touring and hornstar have been a great help to me so far in getting started!!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
I suggest using the XLS file posted in the Main Tephra V7 thread in the ECUFlash forum. It ill convert your maps over to the new, larger format. Basically, it'll just copy over the last column and row a bunch in your case.

Yes, you should automatically see over 100 load now. I would suggest taking cues from some of the Evo maps posted in the forum and then make them a little more tame for your use ... richen the fuel and pull out some timing. Go from there.

Let's be honest ... you're running at 14:1 with knock counts in the teens ... not hard to guess and be better than that for the first map.

the best advice I can give is to toggle on the knock light in the Tephra options and set the threshold low ... like 1 or 2 over 100 load or so. Watch that light and let off as soon as you see it come on. Review logs, make changes, repeat ... then when you've got a good base map, move the threshold up to 3 and fine tune with full pulls to redline.
I just tried "Bigmaps.xls" or whatever, and it's probably more trouble than it's worth to lancer users. We only have like a 10by10 to start with, so just paste that in and make sure the RPM and load values match. If they don't, like 1 starts at 0 rpm, and the evo starts at 500...then you'll probably be 1 value off the whole way down. I'd suggest you copy the timing and fuel maps from an existing user with a lancer who has the same maf as you, since i hear that if you get the evo maf, your load values start to slide to the right more. Then you'll have a much more reasonable starting point...you are almost dangerous right now with such high AFR's. I really think adjusting your open loop thresholds should help that though, since you're not getting openloop until way too late imo
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Not looking to tune the car myself I have Ivey for that I'm just seeking knowledge would like to see what's going on and have general info don't wanna be calling up Ivey at all time's of day just so I can adjust my 2 step or lower my boost.

1. more question can I do a reset of the factory service light that's driving me crazy "car need's service"!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HornstarBU
I just tried "Bigmaps.xls" or whatever, and it's probably more trouble than it's worth to lancer users. We only have like a 10by10 to start with, so just paste that in and make sure the RPM and load values match. If they don't, like 1 starts at 0 rpm, and the evo starts at 500...then you'll probably be 1 value off the whole way down. I'd suggest you copy the timing and fuel maps from an existing user with a lancer who has the same maf as you, since i hear that if you get the evo maf, your load values start to slide to the right more. Then you'll have a much more reasonable starting point...you are almost dangerous right now with such high AFR's. I really think adjusting your open loop thresholds should help that though, since you're not getting openloop until way too late imo

Ok, ya i have the stock MAF and i put in the stock values for the MAF...what do you mean one starts at 0 and the other at 500?
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
1. more question can I do a reset of the factory service light that's driving me crazy "car need's service"!
Most vehicles reset that warning by holding the trip reset button on the cluster, then turning the key on and keep holding it for like 5 sec. Some cars, like VW, have you press another button once the key is on.

Kid, he means the RPM values in the left column. 500 for the Evo and 0 for the Lancer. Honestly, you could change that to 347 if you wanted ... it really doesn't matter. Below min values and above mavx values the ECU will keep using the values in the first/last column/row.

Since Lancer rev lower than Evo's, I'd take advantage of the added resolution and scale those columns to make better use. You don't need anything above 6500 RPM in an auto Lancer as it won't rev past 6200. You could add more resolution in the spool up areas or at high RPM if you wanted.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Most vehicles reset that warning by holding the trip reset button on the cluster, then turning the key on and keep holding it for like 5 sec. Some cars, like VW, have you press another button once the key is on.

Kid, he means the RPM values in the left column. 500 for the Evo and 0 for the Lancer. Honestly, you could change that to 347 if you wanted ... it really doesn't matter. Below min values and above mavx values the ECU will keep using the values in the first/last column/row.

Since Lancer rev lower than Evo's, I'd take advantage of the added resolution and scale those columns to make better use. You don't need anything above 6500 RPM in an auto Lancer as it won't rev past 6200. You could add more resolution in the spool up areas or at high RPM if you wanted.
ok sweet i understand! Im leavin work now im going to get everything all set to upload the evo rom
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
Not looking to tune the car myself I have Ivey for that I'm just seeking knowledge would like to see what's going on and have general info don't wanna be calling up Ivey at all time's of day just so I can adjust my 2 step or lower my boost.

1. more question can I do a reset of the factory service light that's driving me crazy "car need's service"!
Real question is, why is the SES or CEL "on". Fix that, and you fix the light.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Most vehicles reset that warning by holding the trip reset button on the cluster, then turning the key on and keep holding it for like 5 sec. Some cars, like VW, have you press another button once the key is on.

Kid, he means the RPM values in the left column. 500 for the Evo and 0 for the Lancer. Honestly, you could change that to 347 if you wanted ... it really doesn't matter. Below min values and above mavx values the ECU will keep using the values in the first/last column/row.

Since Lancer rev lower than Evo's, I'd take advantage of the added resolution and scale those columns to make better use. You don't need anything above 6500 RPM in an auto Lancer as it won't rev past 6200. You could add more resolution in the spool up areas or at high RPM if you wanted.
Any thoughts on what the highest load you will typically see at 6, 10, and 14 psi settings? I'm trying to get my map setup so that it will be very precise at 6psi, and then have room to grow for when i up to 10...and then a cushion for safety as well.
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