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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Intake manifold and TB.

Ok i just got my I.M. and T.B. now i ran a search and i found some threads about people sayign how long it took to install and blah, but there isnt an actual howto... I would right one, but I dont know the names of all the wires and hoses n such :P atleast im sure theres ones i dont know.

Anyway im going to install both of them this weekend maybe sooner depending on when my buddy can come up. But before i get started I just want to ask the people who have done the install before, what specific tools did u use, what sizes, and what the hardest bolts, etc were to remove. i got my ratchet and wrenchs but i just wanna make sure im not gonna need anything i didnt think of...so all u guys that have done the install yourselfs, can u put some insight on this?

Oh yeah im hella stoked, haha. i want to do it so bad today :P as for the write up, ill try to keep track of each step i do then try my best to make a how to.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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The first time you take off your intake manifold it really blows. Once you figure out how to do it though, it's not so bad. I hope you have skinny arms, or someone with skinny arms to help though. Getting at the bolts under the runners is a royal ***** and a half. I think you only need a 12mm wrench and some plyers to take off the coolant lines. Of course a ratchet is handy, butit doesn't fit in most of the places the bolts are located. Ideally a ratcheting wrench would be the tool to use (assuming it fits under the runners).

Btw, throttle body is a piece of cake. It's the intake manifold that sucks, and, like I said, only the first time really. Good luck, and be prepared to clean up coolant. Have a catch pan handy.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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ha, will do. Thanks for the input, i really appreciate it bro.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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Anytime. Coolant and hard to reach bolts should be your only problems.

Oh, and once you're done on the top of the manifold the first thing you should do on the underside is remove the big black support bracket connecting the IM to the block (4, 14mm bolts). With that in place you'll NEVER be able to work on the underside.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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just read through the service manual the other day, and it said to drain coolant before hand, but i didn't understand why. so should i drain the coolant before hand or just let it leak while i'm working? how much comes out hobie?
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Coolant is a ***** to clean up. You don't need to drain it, but it may prevent extra spillage. It's going to leak even if you drain it though I guarantee.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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hey money, how much was the shipping charges? i am still gathering money for the im and tb (i'll be ready soon hopefully). you have to pay for shipping back too, right?


i have the service manual on cd, so if you need a few images or something, lemme know, maybe we can help each other out cause within the month, i'm going to be installing my im and tb

good luck man! btw, i would love to see a how to guide, at least a picture tuturial or something. and lemme know what the performance increase is like
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Service manual really won't help you more than a careful pair of eyes on this one. There's two cooland lines on the right back of the head that need to come off, fuel rail, injectors, the bracket I mentioned, and a few other things. There's nothing really suprising, just hard to reach.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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hey Gp, shipping was $40 i beileve, it took only a week and i got both at the same time. RRM called me after i made the purchase and said that they would charge me a core charge until I send back my IM and TB. Yeah ill have to pay for shipping back, and im sure u can just use the same box. Ill do my best to write all my steps and to take a few pics. Im gonna tackle the project tommorow cause i dont have work till 6 so ill have plenty of time incase i need it. Im gonna do it alone but i dont think it'll be a prob, i got the stock header off by myself and that gay left bolt .

Great thanks to hobie for the info, and ill let you all know how it goes and how it performs. Boe told me i should expect greater throttle response as well as about 10 hp and tq, so i guess we'll see

Edit:: By the way about the coolant leaking, should i worry about replacing the lost coolant? or is it just a cleanup problem

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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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yeah id love to see some pics
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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You can add a little more coolant if you lose a lot. Whatever floats your boat. It's really more of a cleanup issue imo.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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I was thinking of changing the IM and TB too since I have a turbo. I know it's been asked before but would adding the TB alone help with more air? For the IM nuts, would those little ratcheting wrenches work? The ones that click in 5 degree turns?
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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intake manifold is a pain in the ***, but its a very nice mod, i havn't gotten the TB yet but i plan on it. theh bottom bolts are tough to get at. install is basically straight forward, i've talked about it before but...basically its unbolt / unhook all vacuum lines,injectors, and things from the intake manifold, then unbolt the manifold. remove the manifold, i just tipped the runners downward and pulled it straight up and out, then place the stocker next to the new one and start swapping parts from the old to the new such as fuel rail and stuff. the big thing up to this point is remembering where you had vacuum lines and stuff originally. lay them in the respective locations of where they should be and take pics if you can or put tape on them and label them. after you swap the stuff to the new IM, just drop it back in and bolt up. thats about it, i had an issue with getting one of the bolts in that connect the IM and the stock TB but it seems as though nobody else has had that issue. thats about all i guess. took me and my buddy about 6 hours over the course of 2 days including running to the store for some stuff and whatnot.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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You can avoid taking off the fuel rail (which can be annoying) by simply letting it sit in the engine bay and just removing the two anchor bolts and injectors (so they don't get damaged). Make sure you don't lose any of the rubber O-rings that sit in the manifold either or you'll leak fuel and possibly set your car on fire when you try to start it.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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note to self: lost O rings = fire. check.
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