anything new in this post? damn man I read from page 1 to page 10 just to find out what happen to this upgrade...
just to add another question to this upgrade what will be the gains if the high compression pistons would be added to this... the HC pistons has supposedly 25 whp gain...
hmmmm just wondering....
damn man I wanna see the dudes gains!!!!!!!!!!

 

We all do and have been waiting patiently for the results of the PDA dyno.

If this guy was truly out to help everyone with his findings we would have had that info LONG ago.

WADAD

 

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Sorry to barge in on this thread, but I was just at Mr. Gude's office this afternoon picking up parts for my friend's civic. He explained everything and the 40 - 58 whp is very believable. Looking at the end product is pretty damn impressive. We can't wait to get the head package on to his car and see what gains are had. He says 40 - 45 WHP is just a moddest figure. And that you can expect a little more once the ECU re-learns fuel/timing curves.

In the case of the lancer NA, I'm not too sure but I'm pretty sure similar gains can be had. After speaking with him and seeing the products, I already have a head package on order for my wife's car. I may not be no master mechanic, but from what I see and the quality of work, I'm pretty confident that 40 - 58 WHP can be had on almost any car. If you have the time, search around for the Ford Focus he worked on, where there was a gain of 58 WHP at the wheels...

If anyone is interested, I'll post updates when the head package install is done on my friend's car. Being christmas and all, it won't be till later next week.

 

yah keep us updated, ne way u can dyno to find out for shure

N TAKE PICTURES OF THE PRODUCT BEFORE U PUT IT ON PLZ!!!

 

On a related note, I'll be doing a writeup of my own headwork, INCLUDING GAINS. Now, the dyno I use is a PDA dyno, so I'll see if I can find that converter that lets me post the graphs.

For reference: ported the intake inlets and exhaust outlets, removed the shortside "lip" and removed as much of the casting inclusion as I could. I also lapped the vlaves to remove the compression-robbing carbon deposits. I didn't polish the bowl because there's not a lot of material there, and I didn't want to risk damaging the valve seats. There also wasn't a lot of carbon buildup.

In a completely not related thread, someone posted that a local tuner shop did a simple PNP and netted a 38WHP gain.

A buddy of mine had his stock cam reground and installed by a local shop (because it needed to be shimmed or something- he wouldn't have been able to DIY) and got about 10WHP.

So, I'm starting to believe that this guy might have netted 40+WHP

However, some dyno charts would be nice. If I can find a place near me that I think I can afford to do before and after pulls, I'll get the graphs from them. But since the cheapest I've found is $75 and hour, those 2 sets of pulls could easily go toward other mods, or maybe even a wideband.....

EDIT: and taking pictures of this thing isn't going to tell you anything, other than it's a cylinder head. but take them if you want

 

There's not much to see as we already did a side by side comparison with the core we traded in. The only visual is the trademark bullfrog butterfly/throttle plate (or whatever you want to call it) and the added chip in the ECU. Granted you take the time to open up the ecu and know what you're looking for. Going back to the throttle body, they did a lot of porting hence the need for a bigger throttle plate. We measured on the filter side about 68mm and about 58-59mm on the manifold side... One thing we did notice about the TB is that it's a lot lighter compared to the stock piece.

 

So Dagul I just want to make sure that I understand this correctly because socal's Lancer didn't make it clear but you are saying the car has to be chip'd to use the head package?

Mitsu ECU's are notorious for being hard to crack into.

WADAD

I see the info is on the very first page, but still no lancer specific info on the ECU.

 

The only thing I can say is to talk to Bill (Mr. Gude) himself. He's a fountain of knowledge and should be able to answer any questions you have. He has 30 plus years of experience. But I'd definately wait til monday when he's in the office.

As far as ECU is concerned, I was refering to the head package for my friend's civic. Not all cars require ECU modifications. Like the kit I ordered for my wife's civic, her car doesn't require any ECU modifications because quote unquote "some ECUs are smart enough to relearn fuel and timing curves." That's what Mr. Gude told me in relation to my purchase.

But I'd definitely call and inquire, he's already putting together something for the NA eclipse, and has already offered me cams for my EVO. So, I'm sure he's working on something for the NA lancer.

When I first came across this thread last night, I was under the impression that noone had and any real experience first hand with gude performance products, which is why I offered my two cents on the install we're doing on my friend's civic. And in a couple of weeks, we'll be doing the same to my wife's civic. And maybe that would create enough interest for the lancer/EVO community....

 

Thanks you were spot on with this one.
The only person on here that claims knowledge is the Newbie that says he had it done but hasn't returned to give positive feedback.

Keep us informed on your findings.

WADAD

 

i definately wanna hear more on this

 

I don't think our ECUs get chipped like a Civic. Otherwise why does RRM sell a piggyback, and formerly they sold a reflash?

 

The way I see it, each tuner out there has their own method to their madness. Which is why in one of my posts, I stated that hearing it straight from the horse's mouth would be your best bet. To clear any confusion, give Mr. Gude a call on Monday to find out what he has available for the lancer. I'll be heading to his shop on either tuesday or wednesday to pick up the head package for my wife's car. And for good faith, tell him that Erik and Nick from San Diego referred you...

 

where are they located?

 

this is pathetic guys, an evo guy is offering to do teh leg work we have been lazy to do for our lancers.

also, i dont believe that there is an ecu upgrade for our cars since on one of the pages i believe it says that ecu upgrades are only available for civics.