Its a cold night, only quarter tank of gas and still running 16.7... thats what i was running when i had exhuast intake and piggy back. Any ideas? I havnt put my new clutch in though.

 

i have a bunch of lag in 3rd. Do you think a fpr would be needed?

 

hmmmm i was running 16.5 when all i had was sri and kamikaze header. something definately dosent sound right if you have all those mods. but then again many factors play a role. launch, driver, weather, elevation, mods correctly installed. too many factors to list. sorry i wasnt much help.

 

what tires are you running?

have engine mounts?

.. did you get a tune for your stage 2 cam?

 

can you post the slip?

60ft comparison might help

Also what was your MPH at the end of the track. If you have increased hp a lot then this should be alot higher. You would know it was driver error at that point.

WADAD

 

So wait, did u have the mods in your sig? or did u have the mods in your post...im confused. U said Intake, exhaust and piggy...so if u ran a 16.7, still I would say it was driver error anyway, because 16.7 is stock 1/4 mile right?

If you have all those mods in your sig, I would say something is def. wrong tho...arent you the one who posted using the stage 2 cam with rrm's piggy?

But knowing if u were running on the mods in ur post, or the ones on your sig would really help.

 

^he was basically saying that he ran the exact same time with all the old mods, and the new mods. something dosent sound right.

 

the cars runs more like 17.2-4 stock. (5-spd)

I think you need to tell us exactly what mods you are using. If I am not mistaken you really need some good engine management for the stage 2 cam. Mitsiman from RPW would be a good person to pm at this point.

WADAD

 

ah ok, I get it.

Still doesnt make sense for him to still have that time, especially with the cam...If i remember right, he's the guy who posted about the ****ty times with the cam and RRM piggy.

So assuming hes a pretty good driver, he needs to get emanage, some type of managment or standalone...once he does that im sure he can get 15's...again assumming hes a good driver.

He posted his cam/piggy problem awhile ago, he must have never got that fixed?

 

I found the old thread which you should probably respond to KANSAS:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=100187

Now that I know what you have you need to PM Uranium9v. He had a 1.5 cam and had to use an safc or emanage to tune it. He also had the RRM original reflashed ecu so if the cam did not work with that then I am sure it isn't going to work with the piggy.

The good news is that he saw like a 40hp gain or something of the sort once the car was properly tuned. I know you shouldn't be disappointed when the tuning is done right.

Good luck and let us know what happens.

WADAD

 

I don't think an FPR is necessary..... take your fuel rail to a machine shop and have it bored and de-burred. Shouldn't be very much cashish.

You need! to get that stage 2 cam properly tuned. Sell that piggy and get an eManage with timing harness.

 

The cam without proper fuel management is what's killing you. That's evident by your bogginess in 3rd. All you're doing is running pig rich throughout the powerband. Get an emanage or even an SAFC will do better than the RRM piggyback - it can't do anything with the change that a new cam introduces.

 

What's your 60 foot time? It can give anyone a clear marker of any flaw in the driver or tire grip?

I have read the other thread too. Both seemed a little vague, "I'm not getting such and such xyz secs". Another thing, most newbie track people take time off their R/T from the final ETA, because it looks better for cool points. If you didn't do that, people can work outwards from the possible problem.

I know cam S1 + PnP w/ other mods will/should propel a G93 past a previous gen SI w/ little mods. 2-3 mirage owners in the US and PR have such setup. I'm expecting the same for the G94.

I do believe RPW stage 1 can work w/ stock ecu w/o any fuel controller. For stage 2, I don't know any mirage owner has one in the US. It should be a good possibility that stage 2 is asking more fuel on the top end, and the ecu can't enough instructions to correct it.

I'm guessing your modded ecu has tuning points for stock cam. By going more agressive cam, the ecu's performance perimeter is off-whacked on the fuel mapping. By no way I'm saying the modded ecu is flawed. Unfortunately, I don't know you are running, lean, or erratic fuel condition from a more aggresive cam profile. Another thing to consider - timing is off to be too conservative.

Example: if you upgrade to a G64 MAF w/ RRM ecu, the performance perimeter will be off whacked too. The modded ecu was never catered to such mod.

 

i have a bunch of lag in 3rd
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Can be anything? At what RPW? Does it snap itself right/correctly after passing a certain RPM?

Bogging feeling (rich) or lagging (lean) feeling? I helped to tune a mirager to tell the different between the two.

 

Bump for the postings of your timeslip. We know it needs a tune but the slip might show other areas as well.

WADAD