NA Stages
eslai, its a lot cheaper to do na and doesn't wear out the engine as fast, also you can't pass the visual part of a smog test with a non carb legal turbo and i don't think there are any carb legal turbos for the lancer, also if a cop pulls you over and makes you pop the hood and sees the turbo he can give you a fix it ticket for it and if you get caught with it again theres a fine, also with na you don't have to spend 4k all at once, you can just buy parts one at a time, also everybody got a turbo, why not be diffrent, not that i'm saying i don't like turbos, but na is cool too, also no turbo lag with na.
NA Is a good way to go more stable and less engine wear (said before) I personally i'm going NA but would consider turbo depends on my hp goal with NAbut I dont wanna mag race for now so i'll keep my mouth shup about what i will do to my lancer till you see my dynos and wonder are these acurate wait and see summer 2003 will be completed plus im in no hurry already have a nismo turbo and man is it fast
most of the expensive parts for an NA setup could be reused for a turbo, however yes some of them will be scrapped if i have a strong NA setup i can someday get a turbo and just blow the doors off the thing bang for the buck would be nitrious but thats cheap and wears the engine down really fast, close behind is a turbo another main reason for NA which has been stated is that i can just buy it in stages/as i get the money 4 grand is a lot to dump at once and i know i could never save to such a huge goal thanks for the ideas and keep them comin
rpw or vision imports says on thier site that the quad tb can gain like 70% hp, but this seems ridiculous and a guy at a local speed shop said it wouldn't be worth it since you would have to get a 4 channel computer which is like 4K, just wondering if anybody knows if you can find a 4 channel computer for less than 4k or how effective quad tbs are, cause i know the toyota 4age 16v dohc single tb had like 120 hp and the 20v dohc quad tb version had like 160, i'm not sure about those numbers and that was a 1.6 liter so there might be a bigger or smaller diffrence on the 4g94, also no one seems to know how much hp you could get with quad tb, high compression like 12:1 pistons and cams, just a ballpark would be good if anyone knows.
I'm pretty sure the Trueno engine never had quad TB's, but I know a common upgrade is to carburate the engine. You're confusing venturis with throttle bodies. Time to go look a Club 4AG to find out.
Just save up for these thigns, dunno if they make it for your car though....anywhoo
1.High duration cams, i.e. 295 duration w/ maybe 11.5 mm lift
2.STRONGER Valversprings
3.High Compression pistions... depending on tuning and money maybe a lil over-bore would do wonders!
4.High-strength Rods(duh this is a given if u are doing the pistons)
5.Balanced CRANK helps w/ the revs.
6.Strong yet thin head gaskets
7.Fuel Pump, injectors, and fuel regulator
8.If you gots the money Individual throttle bodies
9.A really fkin good engine management..but if money is an issue the AEM or Apexi one i forget what its called would suffice.
10.Wide Band o2 sensor(will signifacntly help w/ tuning)
11.Since you are running such high compression....a leak down tester would be a good product jsut incase u have any bent valves and what not.
12.A fortuen cookie, and 5 dollar lottery ticket to purchase all of it!
13.2.5 cat-back.... and Give a call to Hytech-Racing(omg mother of allll welders and header maker) They made a Type R gain 25 mother fkin HP w/ some tuning w/ a V-AFC... and its alll on paper!!!! look up hytech racing seriously!... ill psot pics!
14. A ticket to FLA, because if soemone does this, it will start a really good thing, i really underestimate USDM Lancers, Id never get one, but if someone could prove to me power that couldbe gained... im all for it!
1.High duration cams, i.e. 295 duration w/ maybe 11.5 mm lift
2.STRONGER Valversprings
3.High Compression pistions... depending on tuning and money maybe a lil over-bore would do wonders!
4.High-strength Rods(duh this is a given if u are doing the pistons)
5.Balanced CRANK helps w/ the revs.
6.Strong yet thin head gaskets
7.Fuel Pump, injectors, and fuel regulator
8.If you gots the money Individual throttle bodies
9.A really fkin good engine management..but if money is an issue the AEM or Apexi one i forget what its called would suffice.
10.Wide Band o2 sensor(will signifacntly help w/ tuning)
11.Since you are running such high compression....a leak down tester would be a good product jsut incase u have any bent valves and what not.
12.A fortuen cookie, and 5 dollar lottery ticket to purchase all of it!
13.2.5 cat-back.... and Give a call to Hytech-Racing(omg mother of allll welders and header maker) They made a Type R gain 25 mother fkin HP w/ some tuning w/ a V-AFC... and its alll on paper!!!! look up hytech racing seriously!... ill psot pics!
14. A ticket to FLA, because if soemone does this, it will start a really good thing, i really underestimate USDM Lancers, Id never get one, but if someone could prove to me power that couldbe gained... im all for it!
But honestly... anyone w/ CAD/CAM and a billet cutter can fkin make u ANYTHING possible... The dynamics aren't tooo complicated.... there just has to be alot of R&D.. but it's really all in reach!
RE6 brings up some damn good points and advice. A lot would have to be custom at this point, but it's possible. Cost would be the major hinderance here and building up an NA engine just to TC later is really counterproductive. Make up a plan and stick with it. That'd be my advice.
...that and stay away from MSD's DIS-2 ignition system if you haven't read up on it already.
...that and stay away from MSD's DIS-2 ignition system if you haven't read up on it already.
Ok one word of advice... I kinda know pretty much alot of the N/A setup because I used to have a worked Type R. I delt w/ High compression and and high duration, cam overlap, and tuning.... It's all a very detailed setup. Anyways, if you ever go to the TodaRacing website, there is a 10 sec honda w/ lol.. get this stock ignition wires. There really isnt a need for the MSD b.s., its all kinda not needed for a naturally aspirated motor.
Too bad they dont make any Toda parts for your cars though. But keep looking, the process might be interesting, and if someone unlocks any power.... you never know... might make ALOT of money off of this. Ill be at that point once I get my degree, but thats years from now, dont wait for me lol. Anywho, learn, and findout technical characteristics of your motors, and see what is out there. There might be ways to find a mitsu motor that is nice and powerful in a FF vehicle somewhere out there!
On another note: We don't have any 4-2-1 headers made at present. Dunno if anyone else has plans or will ever manufacture one, but for reference they're all 4-1 right now.
RPW also has an 10.5:1 and 11.5:1 forged pistons that can be special ordered (I believe) from Vision Imports. They advise 11.5 as the max with engine management.
And personally I appreciate all the great info, RE6. And I'm sure those who intend to do these things would appreciate it even more.
RPW also has an 10.5:1 and 11.5:1 forged pistons that can be special ordered (I believe) from Vision Imports. They advise 11.5 as the max with engine management.
And personally I appreciate all the great info, RE6. And I'm sure those who intend to do these things would appreciate it even more.



