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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Blown Engine....Thinking about a Swap

My engine blew out on my car last saturday with my brother just cruising in 5th Gear. He got it towed to a mitsubishi dealership and they said they found a hole in my block. I have no warranty left as I am at 75,000 miles and we only got the 60,000 mile warranty for cost reasons when my mom bought the car; which is now mine. The dealership quoted me $5,200 and it blew because the engine has been run to hard. There are plenty of people on these boards who turbo the 4G94 and run the **** out of it and it still holds up, so I'm thinking it may have been a weak block from the factory or something. Sure I took it to 5900 a lot, but I never went over redline, and I was always running 93 octane fuel with my piggyback. I am considering a ralliart swap but Its frustrating because I'd be the first person to do everything, and I would need a new Engine, Tranny, Ecu, flywheel, harness and clutch... which could run me about 1,300. There's a 4G94 20 miles away from me with 13,000 miles on it for 400 bucks....I could save the extra money; or even get high comp. pistons and maybe even rods for that price and build up my block if I ever do consider turbo..... and its some of my college savings. But man this is frustrating.

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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makes me worry. i puch mine hard a lot.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:34 AM
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dam, thats crazy dude. what kind of hole in the block? take some pics per chance?

i'm all for someone stepping up and doing hte ralliart swap, but i think it needs to be someone with disposable income and free/cheap parts nearby. when your own dough is on the line, i'm a kinda a bit leary about trying something this new, ya know?

ultimately its up to you, but i think i would stay with the 4g94. BUT, while the engine is out of the car, scrounge up whatever money you can and slap in these new parts (probabyly in order of most important):

1) aftermarket clutch
2) aftermarket flywheel
3) forged pistons
4) pauter rods
5) camshaft
6) valve springs
7) lsd

i know it sounds like alot more, but if you snagged up some of those (say clutch and flywheel) and did the labor all at once, your going to save yourself a TON of money, and you won't have to pull your engine down the road to put in a new clutch or something. It just makes sense
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 04:07 AM
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That just screams manufacturing defect. Good luck.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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It definitaly is ^

I'm not driving hard but very raraly I punch it till 6.2k rpm. I still remember my friend with his OZ. During the winter he would just start it and hit it!!!

Good luck man, I would go with the 4G94 and just built it up either for NA or turbo. Raliart is cool but it would be really involving to stick it in 2002-03 body.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Yesterday somehow I was going with a toyota gt, 04, and was in third at about 70 and somehow shifted into second and the rpm shot to about 6500 and i stomped the clutch in. I was **itten a brick. Everything is ok, thank god for that.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hypo74
Yesterday somehow I was going with a toyota gt, 04, and was in third at about 70 and somehow shifted into second and the rpm shot to about 6500 and i stomped the clutch in. I was **itten a brick. Everything is ok, thank god for that.
... um... ok.

Anyway... Frank, as much as I would love to see you do the ralliart swap I really think that it would be better to do what GreenPsyco said and go with the g94... it's just more reliable and safe. And do all the internal work you can do to it at the same time. And I'll be there as much as I can to help you man.

Fox
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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update:: I can get a 7k mile 4G94 that's in Dumfries VA (20 miles away) for 400 straight up. 440 for a 1 year warranty, and 580 for a lifetime warranty parts and labor..... Ralliart engine is in New Jersey
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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yeah, screw that, pick up the 4g94 for 440 and the 1 yr. warranty. assuming your or your buddies (jotun, fox, etc) are doing the swap, spend the extra dough on some pistons or something
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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4g94!!!
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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I'm actually going to get a lifetime warranty... if I blow the engine or whatever within it's lifetime, even if it as aftermarket pistons... I'd rathre have a complete swap paid for.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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I think your main problem was using 93 octane on stock pistons and rods. Too high octane for internals that are not designed for high compression or high octane of fuel will lead to breaking down of rods and pistons. Anyone agree?...cause if this is not the cause, im scared for my OZ, i only have 14k miles, but beat the **** out of the car. BTW, i have the 7 year 100k mile warranty that came with the car in 2003. I say to stick with a regular lancer 2.0 motor and rebuild with strong pistons and rods, keep stock tranny, and spend extra cash that you were to spend on ralliart to buy a Stage 2 Turbo from RRM.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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being a college student, I'd go a custom or TSI route.... maybe a used kit, nothing new though.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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and i was running RRM's piggyback... timing shouldn't have been an issue with 93 octane
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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insert eboy's comment here

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