Hey this is my first thread and I'm a nub but I was wondering which headers you guys recommend?

The Rpw race headers
http://www.rpw.com.au/Performance%2...3extractors.htm

or the Rrm
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/drivetrain.htm

I like the length of the Rpw headers, but I don't know if it will cause CEL, or if it is legal in NY.

Which do you guys recommend for reliability and performance?

 

RPW's header will cause CEL. RRM's header comes with a CEL eliminator.
RPW claims to have more low end torque than any other header.

 

RPW: The only one dyno proven.
RRM: Looks nice(Said to be ready for turbo, but they don't tell you it's only for RRM'S turbo)
Kamikaze: Cheap and effective

 

So RPW is the way to go performance wise? Is there any way to eliminate the check engine light on the RPW?

 

^ I'm pretty sure it doesn't give you a CEL.

 

^Hahaha ok, keep telling that to yourself.

Also RPW's header will loose it's finish. It won't be nice and shiny as RRM's header. And Kamikaze header is worthless.

 

kamikaze sucks but it and the rpw also come w/ a down pipe (if ur intrested in that) rrms one bolts on to the stock one

 

Way before you got on this board(2003) people were running Rpw header with no cell problem. Don't know why it would be any different today.

C'mon now. Rrm header are no better than Kamikaze and RPW header owns both. We all know it. How can RPW's header loose its finish? It doesn't come with any kind of finish in the first place.

You buy Rpw, you get a header.
You buy RRM you get a shinny piece of piping.
You buy Kamikaze you get a pipe.

And why is it worthless. What makes Rrm's header that much better. Look at both header very closely and tell what makes one better than the other one? They both use the same design, they both have the same length. Yeah Rrm header are shinny.... yay. 5 more hp for shinyness.

End of discution.

 

Actually the rpw and rrm have a different design from what I saw. The rpw race version has longer pipes before they merge which is a better design correct? Aesthetics and minor price differences don't really concern me. Performance and CEL-free are my priority. Also how much do the RPW race headers cost? Their price list doesn't load on my comp. I appreciate the help btw.

 

rpw headers are like $481, and with the downpipe thing its like $560 (all estimates, but close). And they have a GB going right now to get like 20 off whichever one you buy

 

the RRM header is ceramic coated to reduce heat in the engine bay.....all race headers are ceramic coated. go with the RRM

 

from all i've talked to rpw's doesn't throw one b/c the o2 sensor only hits one or 2 cylinders...

 

rpw header for $480 includes the down pipe the $659 also includes a high flow cat. Read the discription. the picture dosn't match. personaly i'm going with the rpw. I have a 2 1/4 exhaust from the flex pipe back. this kit would fully complete my exhaust system. I have ordered parts from rrm and have been vary pleased but i'm all about more power then show. all though either would increase power by eliminating the cat plus helping the spent gasses to excape. but as with EVERYTHING your personal taste/wants should come first not what other people tell you.

 

Everyone says that Long Tube Headers supposedly give higher peak horsepower and higher/smoother torque curve. but heres the weird part, i just read in Dsport mag and they dyno tested a long tube4-2-1 header setup on a civic and compared it to the dyno test of a short tube4-1 setup. To my surprise the short tube headers made 7.8 more peak horsepower and 5.1 more peak lbs ft(torque). I dunno if this is cuz its a honda or what but is paying $200 more really worth gaining ?hp and ? lbs ft? If you feel it is then i say go for it!

 

Exacly what I just said. Rpw uses a different design, but Rrm and Kamikaze are practically the same.