Ok I couldn't quite find a sub-forum in relation to 'electrical systems'. I saw some ad in some mag for some form of better ground wires. It didn't say much, but just the usual gains in hp, mpg, and some other stuff. All it really looked like was a kit of maybe 5-6 decent gauge wires. It came with some disclaimer about "doesn't apply to all cars" or some B.S. It's not like i'd buy them, but is it just total gimic?

 

You can create your own ground wire. Just get 10 gauge speaker wire, cut to appropriate length, 2 end rings, and a vice clamp.

I don't know about all the HP gains and such. I know it stabilized headlights from dimming during braking. Idles stabilized a bit.

 

I'm bumping this for you, because I'd like to know. Are ground wires really going to increase HP at all for a regular Lancer? And where the heck else can we find them to get more info?

Anyone?

 

The kits out there have 4 ground wires. I only know 1, the ground terminal from battery to engine block.

Will it gain big HP? Probably not if you're not running forced induction.

The VFAQ power wire upgraded on the fuel pump has more benefit than the ground in terms of HP. It's a well known fact that at WOT the fuel pump drops a bit in voltage.

 

Call me noob, but, what's WOT? And are you saying there would be more of a difference in HP gains for NA engines?

 

Wide Open Throttle

 

"And are you saying there would be more of a difference in HP gains for NA engines?"

NA won't gain anything or so.

 

Import Tuner ran an article a few months back about HyperGround wires on a Suzuki Aero.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0212...uki/index.html
they dyno'd everything and found an increase of 1.5hp over stock. but they noted a smoother power curve.

 

1.5hp difference can be found from one run to the next with no changes done to a car...

I would say that there might be a 200-300 watt gain in power through better efficiency (grounding directly instead of through the steel frame of the car and skinny wires). If you are on a dyno you can turn the headlights on and off and see a slight difference in power through the drain on the alternator. You could simply measure resistance through some of the grounds and the point at which you get to the battery negative post. (then find the total current you have pushing at normal operation. Finally current^2 * resistance is equal to the power dissipated by the ground wiring and steel body. Then compare with resistance in the new cables with their more direct path. From here I would assume 90-95% efficiency converting the mechanical to electrical energy from the alternator. This will tell you how much power you gain by swapping in lower resistance wiring paths for the grounds.)

BTW 746W = 1hp so you should be able to do the math from here.

---of course if the grounds are bad then you will probably gain back alot of performance that you should of had anyways.

 

if u were to make one for the US lancer, which wires would u connect directly to the battery?

 

i have the aerospeed ground wiring system on my car. it def. makes a difference. it gave me a better throttle response. i have an intake, muffler, and test pipe. i would recomend this product. best hp for the dollar.

 

from what ive read, ground wires basically use a better material as a conductor. this helps the flow of electricity throughout the motor. if you want, check out some back issues of importtuner. i have no idea which issue, but they did a study of Sun Auto ground wires.

 

So can somebody post some links (multiple for comparison purposes) of gounding wire kits and manufacturers?

Thanks in advance.

 

Actually they don't use a better material per se...They use copper just like the standard wiring. Of course from what I have read (without doing any actual investigation of my own) they use many fine strands instead of thick cabling. This does make a slight difference in resistance (electrons do prefer to travel along the outer edge of wiring if possible so more strands gives a greater surface area to travel as opposed to one big wire), but a wire which has a higher gauge can be just as effective. If you were to realistically measure the resistance between two cables of similar length and diameter you would find a very small difference in resistance (it would almost be negligible except in the case of high currents).

Silver is a better conductor of electricity than copper (platinum and gold are far worse than copper). You might find it is easier to start your car in the morning if you also upgrade the power wire going to the starter with a thicker (numerically lower gauge) wire.

 

does anyone get a shock sometimes when they get out of their car? i do all the time i think i will try this when i get the funds i will let everyone know how it was