ROAD/RACE- A cam is coming!
Well the problem for me is lancers are relatively rare up here, modded lancers even more so, and with only 4 speed shops in town I don't have a lot of choices in terms of places to do the tuning.
Originally Posted by ROCK
They have no idea how to tune to our cam via reflash. You are better off with a piggy, really. Reflashes have limitations and can never be tuned for your specific mods. Plus if you change something, you need to pay all over again for a retune.
ROAD/RACE
ROAD/RACE

thanks rob.
I'm still torn, since both routes have advantages. With a piggyback you have flexibility and the ability to be completely customized while a reflash allows for ease of use and things like a raised rev limiter.
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raised rev limiter? have fun with that one amby. ive used a reflash and a piggy. piggy is ten time sbetter.. my rev limit was raised to 68oo.. no power up there anyways. [/QUOTE]
That is where the cam comes in...and the tuning. The ECU would have to be tuned up in that range to harness the power since the regular map is not tuned at that rpm since you are never supposed to be there in the first place. (long sentence
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How similar is similar to the Mirage cam?
I also have a question about the one cam fits all as it has been shown that autos respond differently to a particular cam profile than the manual. How are you planning to address that issue?
WADAD
raised rev limiter? have fun with that one amby. ive used a reflash and a piggy. piggy is ten time sbetter.. my rev limit was raised to 68oo.. no power up there anyways. [/QUOTE]
That is where the cam comes in...and the tuning. The ECU would have to be tuned up in that range to harness the power since the regular map is not tuned at that rpm since you are never supposed to be there in the first place. (long sentence
)
Originally Posted by ROCK
It is a billet. It has similar grind to a Mirage cam but more for a Lancer. Reagrdless, you won't be disappointed and yes it is Cheaper the RPW's cam by a lot.
ROAD/RACE
ROAD/RACE

I also have a question about the one cam fits all as it has been shown that autos respond differently to a particular cam profile than the manual. How are you planning to address that issue?
WADAD
Last edited by WADADLIG_OZ; Jul 23, 2006 at 04:56 PM.
Originally Posted by WADADLIG_OZ
[/QUOTE=revolt4revolver]
raised rev limiter? have fun with that one amby. ive used a reflash and a piggy. piggy is ten time sbetter.. my rev limit was raised to 68oo.. no power up there anyways.
raised rev limiter? have fun with that one amby. ive used a reflash and a piggy. piggy is ten time sbetter.. my rev limit was raised to 68oo.. no power up there anyways.
That is where the cam comes in...and the tuning. The ECU would have to be tuned up in that range to harness the power since the regular map is not tuned at that rpm since you are never supposed to be there in the first place. (long sentence
)How similar is similar to the Mirage cam?
I also have a question about the one cam fits all as it has been shown that autos respond differently to a particular cam profile than the manual. How are you planning to address that issue?
WADAD[/QUOTE]
thanks for the input wadad.
im hoping for a possitive response from rock. i suppose with the cam and the rev limiter raised, u could have a much faster car in the top end. i have had a friend personally put a mirage cam into the lancer and he ran emanage.
he was stock other than an intake and cam + tuning.
i had just intake and exhuast atthe time and he pulled on my by 5 cars by the time i hit 6O. sadness for me.
well I thought i was going to get a new evo vii kit to go with my extreme fenders, but I think I may be putting that off to get the cam and a pb... Rock do you guys sell RRM stock?... Just curious seeing as I am putting so much money into you guys...
... It's all good though... Anyways, Rob let me know if you have both in stock and PM me...
... It's all good though... Anyways, Rob let me know if you have both in stock and PM me...
With this new mod Lancer are going to take a big step in WHP gains with out the Cam a NA lancer is limited to maybe 125whp and thats heavily modded now with the cam that 125 should turn into 135 - 140whp to me thats a huge difference it's like racing Civic's and Corolla's to racing Tiburon's and RSX's.
does anyone know if these are in stock?... I want to order one, but dont want to wait weeks... if that's the case, Ill just order something else now and order those when they are in stock...
ROCK may get mad at me for this but...
The designers of the cam used the Mirage cam for basis... they found that it robbed low end power in the 4G94 and it's power came on at around 5000rpm. This doesn't due well for the 4G94 setup. So they played with the duration/lift and found a perfect marriage for our application.
The changes were enough to put the power range into a more usefull realm and not negate low end. One supprising achievement was around 3.5k rpms. If you look at most lancer dyno's right around that area there's a drop in both TQ and HP. It's weird... but it's there. The new cam eliminates that area.
The designer's stated that the dip in that location would cause bogging during shifts... funny. A lot of people complain about that and the piggy helped solve some of it. Imagine what the piggy and this cam will due if that area is eliminated!!
The designers of the cam used the Mirage cam for basis... they found that it robbed low end power in the 4G94 and it's power came on at around 5000rpm. This doesn't due well for the 4G94 setup. So they played with the duration/lift and found a perfect marriage for our application.
The changes were enough to put the power range into a more usefull realm and not negate low end. One supprising achievement was around 3.5k rpms. If you look at most lancer dyno's right around that area there's a drop in both TQ and HP. It's weird... but it's there. The new cam eliminates that area.
The designer's stated that the dip in that location would cause bogging during shifts... funny. A lot of people complain about that and the piggy helped solve some of it. Imagine what the piggy and this cam will due if that area is eliminated!!






