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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Dyno confirms it. I think it's like 108 hp to the wheels on a manual lancer. Take the extra loss associated with the auto tranny and you're at about 100 hp. In strict terms, all mods will increase torque, it's just a matter of where on the powerband. Turbo is obviously the biggest thing, but definitely open up the intake side (intake manifold, throttle body, intake), do some fuel mods (fuel rail and maybe FPR), exhuast mods (long runner header, catback exhaust, keep the cat) and maybe some tranny mods (I think Level Ten makes aftermarket torque converters to increase the efficiency of the transmission). A tune is probably a good idea as well. If you want to go further, high compression pistons, ported head and a camshaft would be necesssary. After that I have no idea.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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The Lancer is rated 120hp/trq at the crank from the factory. Power is loss through the drivetrain; that is why your putting down only 100hp/trq at the wheels.

What ambystom01 is saying is true.

Remember that power is nothing unless you can put it on the road efficiantly. So I say get a better(ligther and wider) wheel/tire package. Make better use of the power you have to work with

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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I just installed my header. It was fairly easy. The hardest part is taking the 2 bolts off that connect the header and down pipe.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Dyno confirms it. I think it's like 108 hp to the wheels on a manual lancer. Take the extra loss associated with the auto tranny and you're at about 100 hp. In strict terms, all mods will increase torque, it's just a matter of where on the powerband. Turbo is obviously the biggest thing, but definitely open up the intake side (intake manifold, throttle body, intake), do some fuel mods (fuel rail and maybe FPR), exhuast mods (long runner header, catback exhaust, keep the cat) and maybe some tranny mods (I think Level Ten makes aftermarket torque converters to increase the efficiency of the transmission). A tune is probably a good idea as well. If you want to go further, high compression pistons, ported head and a camshaft would be necesssary. After that I have no idea.

this man is a genious.. that looks like a grocery list.. ****EN PERFECT..

by the way i have a K&N SRI on the way.. headers next??..
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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this man is a genious.. that looks like a grocery list.. ****EN PERFECT..

by the way i have a K&N SRI on the way.. headers next??..
If you want more trq go for A2's Stage 2 Intake Kit.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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indeed^^

or ask him about the stage 3 kit.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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I got the rrm header. Pulls better in mid and top range. Its a simple bolt on, but be sure to put the cel eliminator on 2nd cat under the car near the seats.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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CAll me. I would love to discuss what you need to make real Torque!

ROAD/RACE
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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indeed^^

or ask him about the stage 3 kit.
would a stage 2 or 3 require me to change out the entire intake??.. i havent evened installed the K&N 1 in yet..

BTW.. i appreciate all of ya feeding me knowledge..

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CAll me. I would love to discuss what you need to make real Torque!

ROAD/RACE
i just thought of that.. i was reviewing your shipping options seeing how im in Sicily.. ill definitely keep you in mind as soon as i get some more cash..

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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would a stage 2 or 3 require me to change out the entire intake??.. i havent evened installed the K&N 1 in yet..
Yes it would (same as changing to a better set of headers), but you will be much happier with the gains than from a set of headers. It will give you a much better TRQ curve. Plus the Stage 2 will cost the same as the RRM header. I say Stage 3 is for racing applications only, A.K.A. something you don't want to have everyday.

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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the A2 intake upgrades are replacing the entire throttle body. which you hook the K&N up too
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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where? do you have a link?

i saw the shift kit, but no torque converter

you've been punked LOLOL j/k i actually meant level 10 Sorry LOLOLOL i was lookin at the a2 site at the same time... case of A2 on the brain
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Making the intake track longer increases torque (I believe). Therefore, a cold air intake would, in theory, increase torqe. Exhaust mods usually yield HP results and decrease torque numbers.

The previous post was correct to say that any power-giving mod increases torque, it just depends on where in the rev band. It's all based on the HP formula and the magical 5252.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kid Lancer 7
you've been punked LOLOL j/k i actually meant level 10 Sorry LOLOLOL i was lookin at the a2 site at the same time... case of A2 on the brain

lol thanks. oh well. there converter is like a grand though. not to mention the install
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Going turbo for you is like jumping off into the deep end. Don't do it. At lesat not yet. If you are asking questions about SRIs and intakes you shouldn't be playing with forced induction. That's just my personal opinion. Perhaps research the topic more and figure out a game plan and upgrade strategy.

All the bolt on mods in the world will not make the Lancer all that fast, I know as I have more than half of what is offered. Going turbo is the only way to safely extract horsepower and torque, period. In the long run though you have to decide what you are going to do.

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