What intake is the best you get for your money???
I need to clarify.
A. Turbo installed by us is about $3800
B. N.A. stuff like what I plan to build for ME for World Challenge, 200+++ h.p. will cost me a lot. I am checking cause I wanna go kill people in WC with our other gutted Lancer. Going to be N.A.
C. Lot of stuff like this is custom, requires breaking new ground on many parts, tuing, engine managment, dyno time.
D. I thought we were talking about intakes
Good NIGHT all!
ROAD/RACE
A. Turbo installed by us is about $3800
B. N.A. stuff like what I plan to build for ME for World Challenge, 200+++ h.p. will cost me a lot. I am checking cause I wanna go kill people in WC with our other gutted Lancer. Going to be N.A.
C. Lot of stuff like this is custom, requires breaking new ground on many parts, tuing, engine managment, dyno time.
D. I thought we were talking about intakes
Good NIGHT all!
ROAD/RACE
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Rob, we were talkin intakes, but I digress.
Isn't the stuff you would have to make for a NA car, (camshaft/pistons/valve springs/valve covers...etc) have to be done anyways if you wanted to see some real results with a turbo?
I know you don't have to modify the internals with like up to 7psi of boost on the turbo, but in your opinion, isn't it a better idea to upgrade them anyways?
Isn't the stuff you would have to make for a NA car, (camshaft/pistons/valve springs/valve covers...etc) have to be done anyways if you wanted to see some real results with a turbo?
I know you don't have to modify the internals with like up to 7psi of boost on the turbo, but in your opinion, isn't it a better idea to upgrade them anyways?
I just found this thread...
I hope you gents don't mind me joining in. Here is my $.02. We built up an engine for our G2 and we weren't really that pleased. With the intake manifold extrudehond, the throttle bored out, cam, head ported and polished, and our header. The car lost HP! We raced it (straight line) against a stock es and the es pulled way ahead. Now that said, we changed the intake manifold to stock and it helped a lot. In fact once we played with the cam timing it was pretty fast. What I'm trying to say is that just because something works on Civics or other cars, doesn’t mean it will work on Lancers. Testing and re-testing is the only way any engine parts are going to be produced.
Blair
Blair
I read the Pipercross filters are the best, filters even better than KNN.
http://www.performanceairfilters.com/main.html
Have a KNN drop in filter myself, might change to the pipercross later.
http://www.performanceairfilters.com/main.html
Have a KNN drop in filter myself, might change to the pipercross later.
For Cliff
Originally posted by RMRLancer
I hope you gents don't mind me joining in. Here is my $.02. We built up an engine for our G2 and we weren't really that pleased. With the intake manifold extrudehond, the throttle bored out, cam, head ported and polished, and our header. The car lost HP! We raced it (straight line) against a stock es and the es pulled way ahead. Now that said, we changed the intake manifold to stock and it helped a lot. In fact once we played with the cam timing it was pretty fast. What I'm trying to say is that just because something works on Civics or other cars, doesn’t mean it will work on Lancers. Testing and re-testing is the only way any engine parts are going to be produced.
Blair
I hope you gents don't mind me joining in. Here is my $.02. We built up an engine for our G2 and we weren't really that pleased. With the intake manifold extrudehond, the throttle bored out, cam, head ported and polished, and our header. The car lost HP! We raced it (straight line) against a stock es and the es pulled way ahead. Now that said, we changed the intake manifold to stock and it helped a lot. In fact once we played with the cam timing it was pretty fast. What I'm trying to say is that just because something works on Civics or other cars, doesn’t mean it will work on Lancers. Testing and re-testing is the only way any engine parts are going to be produced.
Blair
No...
OUr G2 car is not a turbo car... Its an N/A. Our show car is turbocharged and making a lot more then 160 hp. Our race car has to be normally aspirated and 2.0L or under to meet its class specs.
Okay, been going through this exact same dilemma. Your dealer tries to give you $hit about mods? The Moss-Harvey Act of 1988 [I think that's the right name and date, but this is on the books], which is law, states that any aftermarket product not offered by the dealer at the time of sale and does no apparent harm to an engine is legal, and cannot void the warranty. This mainly applies to bolt ons, and such, and wouldn't cover internal engine work. The reason this law is in effect is because under the old law, simply changing the spark plugs could void the warranty, which was an atrocity. Now, of course, tuners can take advantage of this because intake, catback exhaust, headers, and ignition upgrades have been shown to extend engine life, and improve both emissions and fuel economy.
Now, this applies to you if RMR was not available at the time of sale.
So, those of you who say that RMR is worth the extra cash due to the fact that it doesn't void warranty, you're wrong. Fact is, if RMR wasn't available at the TOS, you can claim the M-H Act, be it an intake by RRM, AEM, Weapon R, or Injen.
Secondly, I was planning on purchasing the "short ram" offered by RRM, and was discussing it with a performance mechanic friend of mine. He said that in order for the short ram to be effective in any way shape or form, it would require air directly on it. In essence, the evo duct would be necessary to get even half of the true potential of the intake. That means cutting up your hood. Which would defintely take you out from bumper to bumper warranty, if not powertrain.
This also applies to the RMR intake, in that it is essentially the same as the RRM. I would like to state now that I COMPLETELY object to RMR calling their intake a "cold air" in that if you look at the design of the Injen in comparison, it makes the RMR a joke. 1) by definition a cold air intake is supposed to be as far away from the core heat source as possible. The RMR and the RRM, heat shield or not, are right in the thick of the core, just as the stock airbox itself is.
The Weapon R, I really have no information about, only to say that the only time I see the dragon filters in my area, they are on racers who think they can half @$$ their way to more horsepower.
What this all comes down to is that you get what you pay for. The Injen intake, though twice as much as the others, does a considerable amount. The actual filter is as far away from the engine as possible, and instead of the same rubber hose utilized by the stock airbox, it completely replaces everything with insulated aluminum tubing. You ask me, I think this is the best engineered, true cold air available for the US Lancer. Or else I would go the other route, and waste the cash on the other three. Hope I've helped.
Now, this applies to you if RMR was not available at the time of sale.
So, those of you who say that RMR is worth the extra cash due to the fact that it doesn't void warranty, you're wrong. Fact is, if RMR wasn't available at the TOS, you can claim the M-H Act, be it an intake by RRM, AEM, Weapon R, or Injen.
Secondly, I was planning on purchasing the "short ram" offered by RRM, and was discussing it with a performance mechanic friend of mine. He said that in order for the short ram to be effective in any way shape or form, it would require air directly on it. In essence, the evo duct would be necessary to get even half of the true potential of the intake. That means cutting up your hood. Which would defintely take you out from bumper to bumper warranty, if not powertrain.
This also applies to the RMR intake, in that it is essentially the same as the RRM. I would like to state now that I COMPLETELY object to RMR calling their intake a "cold air" in that if you look at the design of the Injen in comparison, it makes the RMR a joke. 1) by definition a cold air intake is supposed to be as far away from the core heat source as possible. The RMR and the RRM, heat shield or not, are right in the thick of the core, just as the stock airbox itself is.
The Weapon R, I really have no information about, only to say that the only time I see the dragon filters in my area, they are on racers who think they can half @$$ their way to more horsepower.
What this all comes down to is that you get what you pay for. The Injen intake, though twice as much as the others, does a considerable amount. The actual filter is as far away from the engine as possible, and instead of the same rubber hose utilized by the stock airbox, it completely replaces everything with insulated aluminum tubing. You ask me, I think this is the best engineered, true cold air available for the US Lancer. Or else I would go the other route, and waste the cash on the other three. Hope I've helped.


