Very true. However...when youre dealership doesn't want to get their hands dirty this can be quite a bother. I think the convenience of RMR parts would be that if your dealer installs them you are just about garaunteed they won't hassle you should anything fail.

 

The whole point about the information about the congressional act is that they can really not hassle you about it. They can try, but, find the actual Act, and cite the sh*t out of it. If that doesn't work, tell them you will take the situation to counsel. In Sue Happy America, this will probably get them to back down.

 

Legally they can't, in reality they very well may. I've had friends hassled just because they didn't bring the car in to the original place of purchase for every service. They can, and may, be really difficult about it whether it's legal or not, and when you need your car fixed or serviced, I'm sure most people would prefer not to have to argue.

 

Oh, of course this is true. I know that it can cause problems, but, if you have to order the RMR yourself and put it on, and many dealers will not touch it, as I've found out, you're in the same boat. I'm simply saying, you got a valid argument to bring up in the event of problems, plus, knowing this gives you more and better options.

 

True I believe b has a large portion of the rights posted elsewhere in the forum.

Here it is

 

Whether or not you install the new parts is secondary to whether or not you have a warranty on the stock parts. If so, then after you remove the stock parts(dealership install or not) your warranty goes with them. You must purchase new coverage at the time of install from the Credit corporation associated with the vehicle. I have been told by many dealers that if you can't fix the parts yourself, you shouldn't upgrade.

 

The warranty on the installed part wasn't the issue. It's obvious that the dealership won't touch the aftermarket parts themselves. The issue was that some dealerships would have you believe that the aftermarket parts make the stock parts warranties go bye-bye, which isn't true by law. Some people lay down for it, but, my point of the post is to say, don't lay down. Make them service those stock parts when needed.

 

i just ordered the injen intake..it should be here in a week or so.. i was wondering if its easy to install and wil the check engine light come on..i read on one of the post that someone installed his and it came on..he also said his car would shut off or something after a while...

 

That may have been the same person who left his vacuum hose dangling. I wouldn't worry about it. If my blue couplings every freakin' come I'll let you know how easy/difficult it is. The only part people were saying was difficult was removing the front bumper. We'll see.

 

Only reason for check engine light is not properly reconnecting MAS wire plug. Light will come on and can make engine stumble.

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/

 

That, and as per instruction, you're supposed to disconnect the battery for like 30 minutes to shut down the computer, and then reconnect it to reboot it so that it recognizes the new fuel/air mixture.

 

not sure if this has already been mentioned, but how soon can we expect the carbon fiber heat shield from RRM? - - I'd much rather have a carbon fiber heat shield for the intake than the simple metal one (or whatever it is) that RMR has - - just for looks . . . . . . . .and at least with RRM there is the option of not having to get the heat shield right away - - what can we expect the price to be . . . . round about estimate??

 

Maybe ROCK will chime in and correct me, but, since the design is the same on the RRM, I think you need the heat shield as much as you need the RMR's. We could go over the design thing, again...

Still think the overall set up from RRM and RMR isn't the best design.

 

What you think is that what you bought is the best. Maybe, but not for the money which is what this thread is about. You can get more pipes for your $ but h.p. is going to be similar. RRM filter and even RMR can allow for h.p. Filter itself doesn't make h.p. It allows an engine to make h.p! Same filter as RRM has made 400 h.p on Turbo Eclipses built by RRM as Dynoed by Sport Compact Car. The intake filter is not the most limiting factor. That is why T.b. and other stuff multiplies the effect of intake or exhaust.

 

First, haven't bought it yet.

Second, I never said anything about the filter. The filter does make a big difference, but not quite as much as the placement of the filter, i.e. right above the skid plate vs. in the engine compartment, scant inches away from the core of the generated heat.

Third, the dyno results that you cite are on a turbo vehicle, much different from a N.A. Lancer. The Injen has given dyno results averaging a gain of 18 hp to the wheels versus the 5-7 the RMR and RRM design give.

Fourth, as for price, the difference has become minimal. You can get the Injen for 199 if you look hard enough, and the RMR which comes with the necessary heatshield costs about 150. Injen = .1 whp per dollar whereas the RMR = .05 whp per dollar on a good day. So, look at it like that, and say I am biased towards something I haven't even bought yet.