what if your turboed? what do most people recommend?

 

A turbo cam?

 

yeah

 

RPW has turbo specific cams.

 

ok so what is a good one to get?

 

Depends on how far you want to go. Stage 1 is a safe bet but obviously the higher you go, the more power you'll make at the cost of driveability and such.

 

THe fate of most modded cars..........

Alos remember that the more aggressive of a cam you get, you will need some sort of vavle spring upgrade (as I said in the other cam post).

 

You do not know with certainty anything. Thanks Nick. Did you every use either cam?

ROAD/RACE

 

I'm basing that off your own description of the cam and the reviews on people who have installed it. I just don't like the idea of using a cam that is made to work for both NA and turbo applications. I think RPW just makes better NA stuff than RRM, that's it. When it comes to turbo, you guys are king (I even say that in the lancer FAQ I wrote) but for NA there are better options. You can't be the best at everything but considering you guys are the best for turbo, suspension and exterior I think you can let RPW have NA.

 

Just explain then. Our cams are mild by comparision to most of RPWs but they are effective and they are cost effective mod. We have had positive reviews from both N/A and turbo guys with our cam.

ROAD/RACE

 

The idea of a cost effective mod is very subjective, you and I both know that. Some people are happy spending 1000$ dollars and gaining 5 hp while others want to spend 1000$ and gain 50 hp, it's completely dependent on the person and the application. For a turbo application it might be worthwhile, although it's a mild cam, it's also not dependent on other modifications (like new valve springs, cam gear, etc.) to work properly and with tons of air getting forced into the engine it could yield good gains. For an NA application on the other hand I don't personally think it's worthwhile, in NA trim the 4G94 just does not respond well and if you want big gains you need to go all out. I say some of this in my FAQ. Don't worry Rob I'm getting bashing RRM, I'm simply saying there are alternatives when it comes to certain products.

 

there is a Mirager on mpf that has put down 133whp and that was with extensive head work, stock compression. 150 is easily attainable but it does start to add up.

His sn is r1mirage. this is his mod list. There definately is more to be had because his isn't a complete build but none the less you get the idea

My project is now completed!! from stock i was able to grab around 35-37WHP and 25-27WTQ, currently putting me at 133.27hp and 126.60tq, this is what it takes to do this....

Aem cold air intake - $210
501 Mas - $25
55mm TB - $100
intake manifold - $400 (including buying and getting it extrude honed)
Rrw cam stage 1 - $450
Cosmo FPR - $35
240cc injectors - $30
Megan pulley - $35
Obx header - $190
Arospeed exhaust - $270
Magnaflow cat - $54
Apexi SAFC II - $230
spec 2 clutch - $285
fidanza flywheel - $230
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I'd say swap the 55mm tb for a 60mm from a 1g dsm, port the the head and then port match the manifolds to the head, The Polish job on the head has proved not really necessary on the mirages so I'm sure it would hold true for you too. Not sure why but it will at least save a few bucks if you choose not to polish. If you can source a stock cam send it out to get a regrind. This way you can get a cam made specifically for your setup. I'd guess for a built head with aftermarket full valvetrain you could do a 272 or larger. Ditch the SAFC and upgrade to an emanage. Its gonna be 100x better for fine tuning plus your going to want all the timing adjustability you can with an aftermarket cam. Cam timing is great to adjust if you have a cam gear but having that ignition tunability will save you tons in getting rid of any knock that you start to encure.

 

Who told you that? Now it's not DD, just a weekend car.

And it's not a lancer, it's mirage. I'm never selling the mirage, ever.

I should have my numbers soon, suprise suprise.

 

I thought you said that in another thread. I know it's a mirage (hence the name) but I didn't want to confuse people since it has a 4G94 (correct?).

 

That's fine, lol.