The time is up...60k miles.
The A/C and power steering are driven by the same belt. The belt goes around the crank pulley, around the power steering pump, around the tensioner, around the A/C compressor and back to the crank pulley. So, you might find some places that list the A/C belt and power steering belt as the same belt because technically it is. 
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The A/C and power steering are driven by the same belt. The belt goes around the crank pulley, around the power steering pump, around the tensioner, around the A/C compressor and back to the crank pulley. So, you might find some places that list the A/C belt and power steering belt as the same belt because technically it is.
Nope I meant what senate said. Thanks though.
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Again, I HIGHLY reccomend the use of air tools. It will reduce what is normally a rediculous, several hour struggle to remove the crank pulley to a matter of 5 seconds. With the money you save not paying a mechanic to do this job, you can buy yourself a compressor and some impact tools. You may be able to rent an electric impact gun, too.
I don't have the space for an air compressor, but can buy an electric impact wrench.
Can someone tell me if an electric impact wrench would pull the crank pulley? The electric gun I'm looking at is rated at 240 ft lbs max.
I'm needing to get this done asap, at 84k miles and getting nervous.
And what size is that bolt if anyone happens to know? I can buy the right impact socket.
Thanks!
Last edited by fe2o3; Jun 8, 2008 at 08:32 AM.
Hey guys, finished up the timing belt install. I went to Sears and bought a Craftsman 26 gallon air compressor for $288 and it came with a set of air tools. I also purchased a set of impact sockets for about $90 (needed a 22mm and no other set that I could find had one this size, and I couldn't find one by itself in that size, either). Unfortunately, the 1/2" drive air impact couldn't break loose the crank pulley bolt, and thats when I realized it was only rated at 200 ft lbs of torque. I went back to Sears and saw one rated at 300ft lbs for like $40, but for around $80 I got one rated at 400 ft lbs. If I were to do it over again, I would have just purchased the bigger compressor (33 gallon) for the same price as the 26 gallon, only it doesn't come with the air tool kit. Live & learn I guess.
Anyway, the impact rated at 400 ft lbs broke it loose in a split second and following the step by step instructions from mcgarvey, it was pretty straight forward. I ended up spending about $100 more than the dealership wanted for parts and labor, but I have some kick *** new tools for the garage to show for it. (not to mention the knowledge I gained from doing it myself)
Oh yeah, that 106k belt looked almost new!
(Wasn't missing any teeth, just had one worn spot on the outer edge)
I don't know if there is a limit to the # of attachments I can post up here, but I took some pics for those of you that were contemplating doing it yourself.
Anyway, the impact rated at 400 ft lbs broke it loose in a split second and following the step by step instructions from mcgarvey, it was pretty straight forward. I ended up spending about $100 more than the dealership wanted for parts and labor, but I have some kick *** new tools for the garage to show for it. (not to mention the knowledge I gained from doing it myself)
Oh yeah, that 106k belt looked almost new!
(Wasn't missing any teeth, just had one worn spot on the outer edge)I don't know if there is a limit to the # of attachments I can post up here, but I took some pics for those of you that were contemplating doing it yourself.
I got my drive belts off pretty quick, just had a little bit of a hard time finding the tensioner bolt for the power steering belt, the alternator one was a breeze.
Well guys I am off to autozone and sears to do some shopping, hope to do finish things off later on today and then of course I'll post up to say how easy it is.
I assume the timing has to line up with the big fat "T" as that means top dead center...it takes 2 revolutions of the crankshaft to get the camshart to line up.
Awesome thread guys!!!!
400ft/lbs was able to rip that bolt right off. Also if you don't already know make sure you have 3/8" tubing and don't try using that coiled 1/4" stuff as it does make a difference.
I am changing my water pump and my tensioner as well...this is taking longer than expected but the water pump is in and the tensioner is in, just need to put in the belt and hopefully the rest will be gravy. I am planning on doing my oil change as well since I can clearly see the oil filter with the lower cover off. I am also putting on my RRM lighten pulley on as well...it really is much lighter and looks a lot cooler as well.
Stay tuned...I'll be sure to post once I got it all buttoned up...cheers!
I am changing my water pump and my tensioner as well...this is taking longer than expected but the water pump is in and the tensioner is in, just need to put in the belt and hopefully the rest will be gravy. I am planning on doing my oil change as well since I can clearly see the oil filter with the lower cover off. I am also putting on my RRM lighten pulley on as well...it really is much lighter and looks a lot cooler as well.
Stay tuned...I'll be sure to post once I got it all buttoned up...cheers!
Just finished...just got some loud lifters other than that it is running like a champ. Timing appears to be spot on, idle is smooth and no back fire whatsoever
Other than a dumb clerk at autozone who game me a bigger than necessary alternator belt, I am pretty much set. I have to swap out that belt and the oil still next weekend.
The job is not that hard but it sure aint easy. Alot a whole day and a special helper. Keep the area clean and take breaks every few hours. Feels great to save a tone of cash.
Let me know if you any of you have any questions.
Other than a dumb clerk at autozone who game me a bigger than necessary alternator belt, I am pretty much set. I have to swap out that belt and the oil still next weekend.
The job is not that hard but it sure aint easy. Alot a whole day and a special helper. Keep the area clean and take breaks every few hours. Feels great to save a tone of cash.
Let me know if you any of you have any questions.
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Question about the timing. If you take the belt off with the timing marks not correct, put the new belt on, then line up the marks with the correct tension, is that workable? (Lining up the marks with a ratchet on the crank pully after installation)
From what I got, as long as the timing is correct (I know you want to get it right before you take it off), then its usually okay, regardless of the before/after situation. Is this correct (cause this is my case)
I checked out some things online before I came here (forgot i was registered) and went off an older mitsubishi, with the cam pulley mark at 3 o'clock. I know now, that its 10:30 ish, and the crank pulley at T. Which it is now, after manually aligning them after the installation (not adjusting them separately, they were still in sync). Just need to know before I start it, as im a little past doing it again. I was told it was fine, but need to double check.
From what I got, as long as the timing is correct (I know you want to get it right before you take it off), then its usually okay, regardless of the before/after situation. Is this correct (cause this is my case)
I checked out some things online before I came here (forgot i was registered) and went off an older mitsubishi, with the cam pulley mark at 3 o'clock. I know now, that its 10:30 ish, and the crank pulley at T. Which it is now, after manually aligning them after the installation (not adjusting them separately, they were still in sync). Just need to know before I start it, as im a little past doing it again. I was told it was fine, but need to double check.
Last edited by bmann_420; Dec 22, 2008 at 10:19 PM.