I got the test pipe and Kamikaze header, no TB at this time though

These two combined made the car so damn loud! I cant believe it, i havent really floored it in the almost a month that i've had the 2 items becasue im affriad of getting pulled over its soo loud, lol, but i can notice the gains no doubt even when its only at like 3500rpm's.

I have the 1st gen kamikaze model with old DP and no rubbing no issues.

I love kamikiaze, never tried or saw RRM so i cant say anything bad about them, only good about kamikaze.

 

Where are the dynos showing this difference? As far as I know we only have a dyno for the RPW header with no baseline for it so we essentially have 0 dynos on headers of ANY value whatesoever (hopefully that changes in 2 weeks or so when I get my car dynoed since I have a baseline before my kamikaze's)

I had no problems with the installation took under 3 hours taking my sweet time wearing gloves caust it was 34 degrees in the garage.

My DP rubbed slightly but that was because my custom exhaust was hung too high. Had the catalytic hanger brought down a bit and no problems with the clearance then.

Also, these leaking flex joints that people have mentioned... keep in mind that although it may be a quality issue it can be very much an install issue. If you have your joint flexed too far and your hangers aren't stiff enough you will wrench on that joint repeatedly and cause leaking. Also stiffening your engine mounts will ease up some of the abuse on that joing. Because of the way that the header sits in the car and is not bracketed to the engine like the stock system was it will be more susceptable to being torqued by the engine. Hence the benefit of the stiffer mounts and hangers.

Also, the kamikaze has an O2 bung on it, so whoever had problems with it I have no idea why you didn't find it.... Unless the "latest" release of the kamikaze's has the bung and the old ones didn't.

All headers will make the car a lot louder... so keep that in mind if you are concerned about noise.

I was shocked when I put the headers on. I wasn't expecting that much of a change... it was far more powerful in the low end and midrange, and definitely has some of the top end. We'll all get to see exactly where things are at once I get my dyno and I overlay it on my old dyno. Then you'll see.

Until we have someone get us a baseline and then header equipped dyno of RPW or RRM we will have ABSOLUTELY no true way to compare these header systems. So people with RRM or RPW get off your butts and dyno your car and get someone who is stock to dyno with you so that you at least have an almost acceptable dyno.

My vote though... Kamikaze. For the possible 2 or 3 or 5 hp difference between the Kamikaze's and the RRM's if one even existed (and wasn't in the kamikaze favor) I'd rather save the 100 bucks and put it toward something more useful. And I personally doubt the kamikaze lags that RRM, but that's pure speculation.

Let the dyno's speak.

 

Can I blow this up?

Want a group buy on RRM header? Want a big f@#$ken sale on headers?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...7&pagenumber=1


Just remember..............


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very well put. i'm with ya. i just ordered my kamikaze today. cant wait.

 

good luck .L. with your header, i know you'll enjoy it!

 

There is no need to even get a header if looking to turbo the car and about the down pipe, it's a waste of money, you will only feel a slite difference in high rpm's, might as well have a custom downpipe made for the same price, but i still wouldn't get one.

 

thanks bro. i ordered it today so hopefully it'll get here by early next week.

 

And for the record... I think the RRM header is a great product as well... it comes down to price... and the eventual determination of what the performance of each respective header is on dynos Although supporting RRM and all the help they've given the Lancer community is worth something as well.

Later!

Steve

 

Thanks Steve. Honestly I was playing around on the last post. It is hard to have a poll on a group buy priced item up against a regular priced item. There was another poll with all 3 headers compared and we won. We are the most active on this forum. Therefore we try hard to listen to you guys imput on products. Piggyback ECu is a good example. We stopped 2 times and incorporated features that Lancer guys expressed an interest in. Good luck with the group buy.


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in that case, i'm expressing interest in a downpipe that matches our 2.25" header. i can honestly say i lost power going from my header+dp combo down to just a header.

 

someone was saying that rrm already tried the dp and no gains were attained so they stopped trying. is that true? which header did you use to have?

 

That is true "L"

I understand the mentality that more stuff must mean more power though.
It is kinda like Grand Turismo Game. But we found that to not be the case with this mod.


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i did in fact have the kamikaze setup.

do you think that the gains i had before came from the header+dp being 2.5" as compared to 2.25"? i did get some of my low end back by changing to the rrm, but i kno that i lost a lot of high end. not like it matters tho... i'm sure it wouldn't be too expensive for an exhaust shop to build a downpipe for me, haha. maybe it's also possible that because my ONLY performance mod was the kamikaze setup that i'm experiencing this. strap on a catback and maybe i wouldn't have noticed the difference

 

ya kenuske, strap on a catback with a testpipe and intake and you'll really notice a difference. I dont think, personally a header was the best idea for a first mod, but thats just me.


But, defiantly get a intake and exhaust on and you'll love the gains and the sound!

 

wheres the dyno that says the downpipe doesnt provide more power? and if the downpipe barely makes any difference, then why isnt it worth having if its 100 bucks less? kamikaze. plain and simple, said and done, hands down. but for those who want 200% looks and quality and something that WILL fit with NO bugs whatsoever, RRM is a good choice for that. as far as going turbo goes, buying the RRM header sets you up to buy the RRM turbo kit (which is probably excellent quality) for 4000000 million dollars that still uses ye ol' up-pipe/down-pipe technology. to me, that somewhat eliminates the purpose of even having a high flow header. i have the kamikaze header, and i am going turbo, and the 100 bucks i saved is going to pay for my turbo flanges that i will need to turn my kamikaze header/downpipe into a turbo manifold/downpipe. thank you very much.