As much as I love my GTS, reading things like this really makes me wonder...

I'm really interested so see more results of all this... If they infact detuned the Canadian version for whatever reason and are advertising higher HP, this could easily bring up a lawsuit... Don't remember what company did that, but I remember there was a lawsuit involved, and they lost.

Could you describe the unusual behavior you experienced?

 

Its simple,

The Canadian ECU programed behaviours are distinctly different, all thou it hasnt been full tested with how far these changes go, but let put it this way. There was very little changes in the Dyno Results between intakes. Even with ECU resets the car quickly goes back to this zone I mentioned earlier.

 

I could be mistaken, but I believe that company was Mazda, and they were sued over the horsepower claims of the then new RX-8. Along a similar vein, Yamaha were forced to buy back a few R6's (2005 I believe, the first year of the current style R6) because they had tachometer's marked with an 18,500 rpm redline, where as the actual redline was 16,500 rpm. They were sued, and they lost as well...


Matt

 

the law suit was on the hyundais. mainly the v6 tiburon.

 

what was the story behind the elise 3.8? i never got that, like if its straight jdm model shipped here or sumtin like that...a dude in my highschool had one and im not SURE if it was rearwheel drive but from what i remeber it was..n that why i always hated v6 tiburons cuz it was front wheel

 

Hey evo_soul, any developments regarding the ECU differences?

I'm ready for battle here!

 

yes I have just posted a blog entry / almost petition letter to mitsu Canada about the issue. Feel free to read it and the dyno sheet provided and weigh in here

http://www.evosoul.com/blog/?page_id=346

 

hmmmm... interesting stuff...

What was the ambient temp when you were doing your dyno runs? If there really is no difference between the cars like Mitsu says, then do you think it's possible that the temps were so cool/cold that the intakes barely made a difference?

I mean, the biggest reason to get a CAI is to avoid pulling warm engine bay air. The stock intake sort of does that already with that snorkel that goes up to the front of the engine bay. Although, it is a bit more restrictive than an after market intake. However, if the air is cool/cold enough, then the restrictiveness of the stock unit wouldn't reduce power development as much as it does on warmer days or climates...

I'd be interested to see the dynos re-run on the same cars, but with the temps in the mid-80s/90s F.

Just some food for thought...

 

Do you know if there is difference of ECU between EU and america latin?

 

i can save you the trouble, regardless of temps, the dyno readings were similar. as I said before Works has encountered this before during the baseline process of their reflashes and other testing. i will try to contact Pete at Engineering and bring him into this conversation.

Regardless... I already have a winner in the INJEN Vs. AEM but the answer may surprise some.

 

And the winner between Injen and AEM is????? ( drum roll )

 

I congratulate you on the enthusiasm, I want which were the resultado, I have an injen cai

 

the only result i would find surprising is if injen won, because there pipe for their intake has more bends. so u would think that would maybe slow airflow or something

just have to wait an see.

 

I keep promising you guys thta I am going to get this review up.... because it deals with these companies on official levels and has logs and stuff, haha its somewhat of a pain to get permission before i post things.

but here is a small leak of the Injen Interview I figure I have to throw you guys a bone or two for the delay. but there are a string of testing and new hardware both released and unreleased that we are lining up so forgive me. I am just one guy doing this mostly so low. Well that and trying to run the local Toronto Lancer Car club.

Cheers

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Question 1
EVOSOUL "Your Intake seems to produce a solid 9.23 HP, was this achieved on a Cali PZEV Spec Lancer (143HP)? If so what is the expected/projected gain on a FED Spec Lancer (152HP)?"

INJEN: "Yes, the gains were achieved on a PZEV spec Lancer. The Gains you will achieve on the FED spec Lancer will be very similar if not more than the PZEV, due to the fact that the PZEV spec Lancer had an additional Catalytic converter to meet California’s emission standards."

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Question 3
EVOSOUL: "Since the release of your COLD AIR INTAKE, Mitsubishi has now released a 2.4L engine variant. Do you believe the Intake sold for the 2.0L will suffice or would you consider making another intake for the 2.4L exclusively.

INJEN "We just finished performing a battery of tests on the new 2.4L engine. The 2.4L ECU’s fuel & ignition maps is totally different from the 2.0L's ECU. The intake system for the 2.0L will not work with the 2.4L due to the 2.4L engine requiring more air. Using our patented M.R. Technology and Air Fusion design process we were able to produce the desire HP/TQ gains and safe air/fuel ratio’s that the factory ECU would accept. The new cold air intake for the Lancer 2.4L GTS will be ready for release shortly."
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Jan 31 2009 Event testing sponsored by Mobil1 Canada

 

I know I broke down and went with the Injen and am definitely satisfied