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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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I get both sides of this debate. I've driven my 08 CVT GTS from April 2007 to November 2008. I understand what all the CVT guys are saying. I've experience the slow response when pushing the gas pedal in the CVT. BUT, I also understand where amby is getting at. It's really hard to say who's right or wrong. Kinda just stuck in between. I guess what it all comes down to the customer who's willing to spend the cash.

I'd also like to add that I've driven the 09 CVT GTS. My sister purchased one when I traded in my 08 for the RA. I actually didnt feel the 'bog' or 'delay' that we've been feeling. Maybe they fixed that for the 09's? Maybe it's the 4b12? But anyway, that's a whole different issue.
funnily enough a bigger engine and more power will make your car "feel" fast also
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Again, it sounds like a CVT issue if that's the delay.
Yes. A CVT isn't designed to slam the pedal to the floor and all of the sudden you're overtaking the Millennium Falcon in hyperspace. It's the physics of the gearbox that create the bog (and to a lesser extent, the electrical throttle system itself) - Drive a Formula 500 racer and you'll feel a slight bog with that CVT too - that's why it's a great beginner race car - it teaches you to be smooth and deliberate and that being jerky on the throttle doesn't work. Couple that along with the fact the car is underpowered and overweight; along with the fact it's designed to save gas and be economical. The manual gearbox is in a similar spot, too. The gear ratios are there to hold you back. The Lancer is meant to be driven smoothly, deliberately, and economically. made sure of this.

The CVT isn't going to learn anything from this device - people seem to be giving this thing way too much credit. The Sprint Booster website goes so far as to say it works independently of any ECU software or other modifications - so several members here are saying this thing works and will perform in ways that are diametrically opposed to even what the manufacturer is saying; which leads me to believe there is a lot of reaching and conjecture and flat out BS when some of you are forming your arguments. It will not assist in defying physical law by snapping the CVT into being more responsive and it will not decrease 0 to 60 times and will in no way, shape, or form; unless by the hand of Christ himself, make the car any faster. Maybe more interesting to drive, but that's all. SprintBooster said so themselves. It's just jacking up voltage...that's it. What else can this thing do? A few pages from now somebody will have it minting $3 bills and hosting the Tonight Show.

I wonder how good it feels on the USDM automatic transmission STI? The site sells products for a car that doesn't exist but makes it a point to mention that their products are specifically tested on each model car....how the hell did they test that one? How did they test ours? Did they at all? They're trying overcome the incredulity of eBay speed chips and such by charging over $300 for what is maybe $10 worth of parts..."It's expensive, so it must be worth it." Once again, I'm sure the product will make the car feel nice for those of you that purchase it (I really hope it does), but a lot of you are attributing things to this chip that go against reality and rational thought; and all the while it will be giving you no value for money.

And they're using a Seat Leon as one of the demo cars in that embedded video on the main page...that alone should be reason enough to pull the site from the Internet and salt the Earth so it can't grow back.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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wow 7 pages

honestly im sure this product is the same as Blitz throttle response controller or anything of that sort

im not going 2 repeat anything really said already but i have it in my car and i like it

but it is def not worth 330 USD, im glad i paid nowhere near that for mine

id say if u can find 1 for way less then 330USD try it out other then that this product is something u can miss out on
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you come to the same outcome by just pressing the gas pedal a little harder? it shows that at 3/4 throttle, its like your flooring it, and when your flooring it, its the same measurements. So all this did was reduce the gap of how hard you have to push the pedal from when you feel it? I'll stick to just knowing how hard to push in order to feel what i want
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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I think I am going to come out and say, that too much attention is being paid to cost. I mean really, when something comes out, an INTAKE, an exhaust, you see the MSRP of 500 dollars, what you pay can be anywhere in the field. The point is if it works, it works. if it costs 500, 499, 300 or 50. Cost is a factor that only goes in one direction, and thats down. Thats when normal market forces are at play. That said, cost vs. value vs. time is another agrument, but its an individual thing, everyone is different.

Second, its really hard to make a judgement, or pass judgement on something you haven't tried. its easy to make an arm chair decision on something, its another thing to say I tried it, oh ya I get it, it does this, or this doesnt do anything. My opinion says its worth the try, if it takes to you great if not, meh... At the same time, I think I will retire of this topic for a little while and give others a chance to share their experiences or arguments.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by crypto
funnily enough a bigger engine and more power will make your car "feel" fast also
lol. True. This "feeling" fast thing is like a disease!
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by crypto
funnily enough a bigger engine and more power will make your car "feel" fast also
lol dont get me started on that one, with .4L of displacement you'd think you would get more power outta the thing. that said I am sure they didnt want to add to the mountain of overlap between the Lancer, RalliArt and EVO X lines
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
I think I am going to come out and say, that too much attention is being paid to cost. I mean really, when something comes out, an INTAKE, an exhaust, you see the MSRP of 500 dollars, what you pay can be anywhere in the field. The point is if it works, it works. if it costs 500, 499, 300 or 50. Cost is a factor that only goes in one direction, and thats down. Thats when normal market forces are at play. That said, cost vs. value vs. time is another agrument, but its an individual thing, everyone is different.

Second, its really hard to make a judgement, or pass judgement on something you haven't tried. its easy to make an arm chair decision on something, its another thing to say I tried it, oh ya I get it, it does this, or this doesnt do anything. My opinion says its worth the try, if it takes to you great if not, meh... At the same time, I think I will retire of this topic for a little while and give others a chance to share their experiences or arguments.
It doesn't work though, it's no different than just flooring the car. It's not some magic box that will suddenly make a CVT act like a manual or a 2 L motor act like a 6 L motor.
Based on the very evidence given by the product makers, we don't need to try it to know it's bogus, we can use basic common sense. I don't need to try crack to know it's a dangerous substance.
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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This product = Fail.

Did they make a lot of money. Yes.
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
.. I don't need to try crack to know it's a dangerous substance ..
touché
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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the only thing i dont get about the CVT is that why does it have to be SLOWER than a conventional Auto tranny.. i mean.. those old-*** buicks, neons, and toyotas from the 90's can still accelerate faster than me off of a stop..

and im always at 2000rpm when im driving... never reached 3k.. is it bad if i try and push it to 3k?
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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the only thing i dont get about the CVT is that why does it have to be SLOWER than a conventional Auto tranny.. i mean.. those old-*** buicks, neons, and toyotas from the 90's can still accelerate faster than me off of a stop..

and im always at 2000rpm when im driving... never reached 3k.. is it bad if i try and push it to 3k?
Its not that the CVT is really allthat much slower, the 0-60 time are about the same. if you cut the pedal to the floor then it will go. What your talking about has to do with the fact that if you always drive the same way, with the same acceleration and coasting patterns the CVT will adapt itself to that behaviour. This is why it sometimes feels like there is a clear line or barrier between you and that 3000RPM threshold.

you can do some research on the CVT software platform, for more info on how intelligent it is
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Few points:

- Return is not always an easy as most people think, they make it sound as if you just try out the product and 'undo' everything if you don't like it, but it is not. At best case, you still have wasted your time, you pay for their shipping, your shipping, and refurbishing fee. Then there is another problem, some vendors aren't always too happy to do returns although they make promises, because it is an extra effort to return the gain they earned, or some vendors are just very shady from start. A lot of the cases it is actually the consumers that don't bother with returns even if they're not satisfied, either because they're too busy or too lazy, and the product would end up sitting in their garage or the basement

- Cost of the product should never be ignored, do you realize that this product is about 2% of the car's MSRP when brand new? With the same money, you can buy some used aftermarket intake/exhaust to not only gain the throttle response throughout the rev range, but also add power, reduce weight and 'feel' faster

- Similar point, if you are so desperate to try things out at any cost, why not just trade your car in for something that has better throttle response and power especially if you are very concerned about those features? You may end up losing less money and have a car that satisfy you

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
Its not that the CVT is really allthat much slower, the 0-60 time are about the same. if you cut the pedal to the floor then it will go. What your talking about has to do with the fact that if you always drive the same way, with the same acceleration and coasting patterns the CVT will adapt itself to that behaviour. This is why it sometimes feels like there is a clear line or barrier between you and that 3000RPM threshold.

you can do some research on the CVT software platform, for more info on how intelligent it is
really? so if im more agressive on the gas pedal the CVT can recognize it and in turn be better on accelerating?.. i guess im gonna start flooring it a little bit from now on..
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Few points:

- Return is not always an easy as most people think, they make it sound as if you just try out the product and 'undo' everything if you don't like it, but it is not. At best case, you still have wasted your time, you pay for their shipping, your shipping, and refurbishing fee. Then there is another problem, some vendors aren't always too happy to do returns although they make promises, because it is an extra effort to return the gain they earned, or some vendors are just very shady from start. A lot of the cases it is actually the consumers that don't bother with returns even if they're not satisfied, either because they're too busy or too lazy, and the product would end up sitting in their garage or the basement

- Cost of the product should never be ignored, do you realize that this product is about 2% of the car's MSRP when brand new? With the same money, you can buy some used aftermarket intake/exhaust to not only gain the throttle response throughout the rev range, but also add power, reduce weight and 'feel' faster

- Similar point, if you are so desperate to try things out at any cost, why not just trade your car in for something that has better throttle response and power especially if you are very concerned about those features? You may end up losing less money and have a car that satisfy you

- A good moderator is someone who actually tries to help forum members, which includes leading them away from legal scams. If you are annoyed by that, then it is you who should ignore the posts rather than trying to force someone to shut their mouth

Yes! Thank you. At $300 something dollars the money can be spent elsewhere.



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