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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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yeah, we dont all have personal tuners or have our car compatible with ecu flash





maybe one day 08 lancer will be compatible with ecu flash.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EngRWW33
After reading this I really can't see it being worth $330...
I couldn't see it being worth $3.30...BEFORE I read that paper They should bundle in an eBay speed chip and a sack of magic beans to make it more enticing to buy; considering that you can build the same thing from Radio Shack parts for less than $10.

And this thing has NO place on a race car anywhere or at anytime because #1 it's akin to cheating, and, #2 it would end up working against you in so many ways.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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The idea of this product is great.
I am just curious about how reliable this thing is. Mainly, what type/grade of electronic components does the manufacturer use? What if it craps out in the middle of the road, and signals doesn't get to the ECU? It's like running out of gas and this brings up the safety issue. But, i really do hope that it works as advertised and worth the 330 dollars.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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I don't understand how someone can be willing to spend 300$ on a part that makes zero HP and doesn't help handling.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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I don't understand how someone can be willing to spend 300$ on a part that makes zero HP and doesn't help handling.
best way to understand is to try it. I have talked to about 3 people who have it on their cars and they are extremely happy. That said, Its not something that can be explained, I doubt my review would be as effective as driving the car. From my point of view, it helps my CVT problem. When your driving manual, its something very different, so its hard for me to depict what to expect from that point of view.

If could have never bought this if I didnt test drive it. Cause even to me, it seemed suspect. But the more I heard the more curious I got. The Local Toronto Clubs like the Mazda 6 boys are liking it too
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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best way to understand is to try it. I have talked to about 3 people who have it on their cars and they are extremely happy. That said, Its not something that can be explained, I doubt my review would be as effective as driving the car. From my point of view, it helps my CVT problem. When your driving manual, its something very different, so its hard for me to depict what to expect from that point of view.

If could have never bought this if I didnt test drive it. Cause even to me, it seemed suspect. But the more I heard the more curious I got. The Local Toronto Clubs like the Mazda 6 boys are liking it too
My car is already tuned so I have no throttle issues. Moreover I'm not a fan of doing things half-assed which this product certainly seems to be doing. 300$ just to do the job your right foot can accomplish for free is ridiculous.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
My car is already tuned so I have no throttle issues. Moreover I'm not a fan of doing things half-assed which this product certainly seems to be doing. 300$ just to do the job your right foot can accomplish for free is ridiculous.
well with cars like the CVT your right foot isnt going to do much at all..you can stomp as hard as you want and you arent gonna get a instant or "satisfied" response, what evosoul seems to be saying is since the CVT has always had such a crappy response and always kinda slugged in the lower RPMs, this thing sounds to increase that giving you much better response and faster take off. to me its a lot better deal than paying 650 bucks for RRMs new product and a piggy working together to make about 15hp, i dont know how many cars you or anyone else had but 15hp isnt enough to make you go wow. however much increased throttle response, especially on a CVT car like this which its desperately needed, sounds like something more reasonable at this point, with there not being too many other options.

it may be a totally different story with MT lancers and they may have different problems and issues. 300 is a little steep 225-250 would be my target point but 300 i dont think is ridiculous

just my .2
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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If this is a CVT issue, it's not related to the throttle sensor or the throttle map. I highly doubt that Mitsubishi made the CVT throttle sensor less sensitive than its manual counterpart. I don't see how a product that just increases the signal is going to make anymore of a dramatic affect than just flooring the car. There's a maximum signal that the ECU can accept, if it's above that, it doesn't suddenly open the throttle 125% because obviously it can only open the throttle 100%.
15 HP is noticeable.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
My car is already tuned so I have no throttle issues. Moreover I'm not a fan of doing things half-assed which this product certainly seems to be doing. 300$ just to do the job your right foot can accomplish for free is ridiculous.


If na 08+ lancers were as easily tuned as wrx and evos im sure everyone would have tunes as opposed to this device, or the RRM piggy back. but the fact of the matter is there is 1 and only 1 company that has a 08+ lancer flash (that i know of).

also if ecuflash supported the na lancer i am also certain there would be little to no talk about this device and more talk about maps, tuning etc.


plain and simple there are not many options out for this model lancer, any new product that comes out has to be tested and talked about until it has been proven to be worth the money.

unless people are wasting your money i dont see why it bothers you so much, some people have money to throw around

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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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This isn't even a matter of ease of tuning, it's just a matter of people paying good money for a part that doesn't do anything they can't do themselves.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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I really want to try this out, CVT sucks soo much to drive because you can have the pedal depressed all the way and it seems like its only at 70% throttle until 3 or 4 seconds pass and then it opens up. (before 3k RPMS, im not talking about the sporty Mivec mode). There is seriously like a 2 or 3 second delay on the CVT, Slam the pedal down as hard as you want, it will move just as fast as a light tap.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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dude the m/t is the same..ive been on threads about it alot lately...2nd gear up until 3k rpm whether floorin it or not its like a ****in grandma pushin a cart full of ensure
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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yeah read their product information. they emphasize that it make your car "FEEL" like its accelerating faster and that it doesn't help your 0-60 time nor does it give hp.
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
My car is already tuned so I have no throttle issues. Moreover I'm not a fan of doing things half-assed which this product certainly seems to be doing. 300$ just to do the job your right foot can accomplish for free is ridiculous.

Amby, my point is, in regards to the CVT transmission specifically in D mode. If you havent driven one, I can understand what you are saying. But a CVT differs from a regular automatic and manual in obvious reasons, but there are CVT-ECU software reason which make the computer work against you in terms of power performance.
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
This isn't even a matter of ease of tuning, it's just a matter of people paying good money for a part that doesn't do anything they can't do themselves.
Amby, Care to share on how to increase proformance without gutting out my engine or driving to Ohio? And how is it a waste of money if I have 30 day money back guarantee? Or check it, you can come to maryland and tune my ride and I'll pay you the bones for it.

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