Is it possible to make an all motor lancer beat a stock mustang?
true dont get me wrong i have been to the track here in NC several time with my dak R/T and i have raced stock new stangs up to a guy with intake and exhaust i guess the crowd was just bad that day but no GT's ran under a 14.0 then. i know becasue tats the day i ran my 13.4@103 not fast enuff but it was one of the fastest times of the day. so it does have a lot to do with driver. ppl in the magizines are pro drivers that are good at what they do and practice alot. some joe shmoe wont go out on the twisty and be great the first time. so in theory he has a chance but the way he doesnt know about the car first off(OP shoulda got a 09 GTS) he wont stand a chance with the stang guy would just slow in turns and pull in strights.
and you know the funny thing is ppl in a mazda3, honda civic EX, hhr, and focus' if they have exhaust and an intake think they can outrun you,lol.
and you know the funny thing is ppl in a mazda3, honda civic EX, hhr, and focus' if they have exhaust and an intake think they can outrun you,lol.
And people are on here trying to compare their Lancer to a Mustang. This proves the point; finish school, and "Crack Kills"! 
true dont get me wrong i have been to the track here in NC several time with my dak R/T and i have raced stock new stangs up to a guy with intake and exhaust i guess the crowd was just bad that day but no GT's ran under a 14.0 then. i know becasue tats the day i ran my 13.4@103 not fast enuff but it was one of the fastest times of the day. so it does have a lot to do with driver. ppl in the magizines are pro drivers that are good at what they do and practice alot. some joe shmoe wont go out on the twisty and be great the first time. so in theory he has a chance but the way he doesnt know about the car first off(OP shoulda got a 09 GTS) he wont stand a chance with the stang guy would just slow in turns and pull in strights.
and you know the funny thing is ppl in a mazda3, honda civic EX, hhr, and focus' if they have exhaust and an intake think they can outrun you,lol.
and you know the funny thing is ppl in a mazda3, honda civic EX, hhr, and focus' if they have exhaust and an intake think they can outrun you,lol.
Again, if your using drivers of different skill levels, you're not comparing the cars, you're comparing the drivers. A pro in a bone stock 92 Civic could theoretically win against a Corvette Z06 if the Corvette driver has no experience at all.
why are you guys still going at it with this lancer vs. rustang crap. Who cares! Arguing over the internet is just plain retarded. But...somehow it amuses me. Keep it going 
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From: chatham VA
You're discounting the altitude affect, a car will not make the same power at 1000 ft as it does at sea level. This is especially true of NA cars. Unless the race entails nothing but 1/4 mile drags, the inability of some drivers to crack off low times isn't an issue. A 14.0 is still enough to destroy a Lancer.
Again, if your using drivers of different skill levels, you're not comparing the cars, you're comparing the drivers. A pro in a bone stock 92 Civic could theoretically win against a Corvette Z06 if the Corvette driver has no experience at all.
Again, if your using drivers of different skill levels, you're not comparing the cars, you're comparing the drivers. A pro in a bone stock 92 Civic could theoretically win against a Corvette Z06 if the Corvette driver has no experience at all.
anyways. you are correct and im not argueing that you are 100% right.
hey amby can i ask you a favor? i dont get net that often and from my understanding and afer reading in car and driver and motortrend a stock mazda3 vs a lancer theysaid that a stock lancer 08 gts would out run a mazda3 can you help me with that? and i know for a fact that a stock civic ex is slower then a lancer civics have less power an torque. and i dont even need to tell you that a stock focus is only 120hpish so no compare.
Lancer stats according to Road and Track:
HP: 152
Torque: 146
Weight (lbs): 3110
1/4 mile: 16.5@86.0 MPH
0-60 MPH: 8.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 126 ft
Skidpad: 0.82 g
Slalom: 64.7 MPH
I presume this is an 08 GTS given the power rating
Mazda3 stats:
HP: 167
Torque: 168
Weight: 3035
1/4 mile: 15.7@89.3 MPH
0-60 MPH: 7.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 132 ft
Skid pad: 0.86 g
Slalom: 66.8 MPH
It would be a close race, no car has a real definite advantage over the other.
HP: 152
Torque: 146
Weight (lbs): 3110
1/4 mile: 16.5@86.0 MPH
0-60 MPH: 8.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 126 ft
Skidpad: 0.82 g
Slalom: 64.7 MPH
I presume this is an 08 GTS given the power rating
Mazda3 stats:
HP: 167
Torque: 168
Weight: 3035
1/4 mile: 15.7@89.3 MPH
0-60 MPH: 7.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 132 ft
Skid pad: 0.86 g
Slalom: 66.8 MPH
It would be a close race, no car has a real definite advantage over the other.
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From: chatham VA
Lancer stats according to Road and Track:
HP: 152
Torque: 146
Weight (lbs): 3110
1/4 mile: 16.5@86.0 MPH
0-60 MPH: 8.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 126 ft
Skidpad: 0.82 g
Slalom: 64.7 MPH
I presume this is an 08 GTS given the power rating
Mazda3 stats:
HP: 167
Torque: 168
Weight: 3035
1/4 mile: 15.7@89.3 MPH
0-60 MPH: 7.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 132 ft
Skid pad: 0.86 g
Slalom: 66.8 MPH
It would be a close race, no car has a real definite advantage over the other.
HP: 152
Torque: 146
Weight (lbs): 3110
1/4 mile: 16.5@86.0 MPH
0-60 MPH: 8.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 126 ft
Skidpad: 0.82 g
Slalom: 64.7 MPH
I presume this is an 08 GTS given the power rating
Mazda3 stats:
HP: 167
Torque: 168
Weight: 3035
1/4 mile: 15.7@89.3 MPH
0-60 MPH: 7.5 seconds
Braking from 60 MPH: 132 ft
Skid pad: 0.86 g
Slalom: 66.8 MPH
It would be a close race, no car has a real definite advantage over the other.
you know i feel kinda bad for the guys that went out and bought a GTS model in 08 then
goes and changes motors on ppl in 09. i think its messed up. kinda like when dodge made the 2006 dakota r/t with a 4.7L V8 with 260hp and 300ft Lbs then the next year turn around and make the SLT model in 2007-08 with 300hp and 320ft lbs. i hate when they do stuff like that one up there own cars to make ppl go and trade in on a new one.
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From: chatham VA
The 2.0-liter GTS five-speed we tested ran 0-to-60 in 7.7 seconds, more than a match for the last 2.3-liter-equipped Mazda3 we tracked at eight seconds flat.
My point was simply to prove that a basic Mazda 3 can be competitive with the 08 Lancer, so how in the hell is the Lancer gonna keep up even close with a 300+ HP Muscle car? Simply not gonna happen! Get over this stupid discussion; the Mustang wins in all aspects except for cost and warranty! 
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From: chatham VA
My point was simply to prove that a basic Mazda 3 can be competitive with the 08 Lancer, so how in the hell is the Lancer gonna keep up even close with a 300+ HP Muscle car? Simply not gonna happen! Get over this stupid discussion; the Mustang wins in all aspects except for cost and warranty!
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info on non turbo 09' GTS
I am new to this, but here is a link to another thread in here that Predator Performance shows times and dynos of how they have tweaked tested an 09' GTS with no Turbo, and they are able to get in the 14's. This of course with the mods that they mention.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/la...stage-2-a.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/la...stage-2-a.html
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