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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by i_love_spool
Buddy you'd be lucky to get 150 hp from $3000 in parts.
Are you serious?
You mean to tell me if I match port everything, use a cold air intake, take the cats off and put a cam and headers on I wouldn't get it up to at leats 150hp.
How much hp do you think I would get from the above 5 things.
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by HobieKopek
It will hold up to about 8-9lbs on standard internals, but you're certainly going to need to add much more fuel. 230cc injectors don't exactly pour the fuel and the pistons have very narry ring lands. It's will outside of your $500 budget, but it can be done cheaply (non-intercooler) if you do the piping and all of the work yourself.

Anyway, you're going to be hard pressed to get the car going much faster for that price. My advice would be either keep it stock and live with it, or prepare to fork over money you may not have.
The reason why I ask is im in the process of getting my game plan together before I tear into this little car with fury.
I have the turbo off the truck and its been sitting around my shop for months but im not sure how the car will react to even 7lbs of boost.
I either gonna turbocharge it or match port the whole thing, get a cam and headers and get rid of the cats.
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by i_love_spool
Buddy you'd be lucky to get 150 hp from $3000 in parts.
no spool quite wrong there cuz rrms non ic turbo is $3000 and theyve been dynod at right around 170 every time. just go turbo majik and save the time and trouble....
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Yeah I agree, forced induction is the only way to go if you want respectable gains.
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Are you serious?
You mean to tell me if I match port everything, use a cold air intake, take the cats off and put a cam and headers on I wouldn't get it up to at leats 150hp.
How much hp do you think I would get from the above 5 things.
if you port and polish throttle body, intake manifold, head, open up your exhaust with headers and no restrictions but keeping a diameter of about 2.25 inches, and put in the cam, you could get close to 150 but not to the wheels, maybe 150 at the crank if thats what your asking, oh and i forgot about a CAI

and about your timing, well i highly advise against it because the timing in this car is very sensitive, mess it up and it might not even start, or like you said, if you advance it, your gonna run into trouble
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by i_love_spool
Buddy you'd be lucky to get 150 hp from $3000 in parts.
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by majik211


The reason why I ask is im in the process of getting my game plan together before I tear into this little car with fury.
I have the turbo off the truck and its been sitting around my shop for months but im not sure how the car will react to even 7lbs of boost.
I either gonna turbocharge it or match port the whole thing, get a cam and headers and get rid of the cats.
this engine can take 7 psi fine with stock internals, wouldnt go any higher though.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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Lightbulb Ok I made up my mind

I made up my mind.
Im going turbo but im still going to match port the head so I get maxium efficency out of it.
I will get the bigger injectors.
I did find a honeycomb for the mas on a 99 mirage today but it looks thiner (not by much) but for $15 I guess it will have to do.
Im not gonna run more than 8lbs of boost.
Will I have to flash the ecu to port the head and put the turbo and bigger injectors on it?

Price for all this stuff:
turbo : free (turbo I took off a F-350 Diesel)
header : $180
test pipe : $35
Bits for porting $48
Aem Cold air intake $ 120
Gaskets $ 75
Injectors ?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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the engine can actually hold 9psi on stock internals with road races kit
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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if your going turbo you have alot more you need than just injectors, your goign to need piping, wastegate, bov, fmu, fuel pump, its late a tnight, im sure im missing alot more
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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Do NOT forget something to manage/tune the fuel. You're playing a dangerous game by assuming you're getting enough fuel with even the FMU and FP. You seem like you know what you're doing, but please, please be careful. Especially if you're on a tight budget, I know you won't wanna have to pay to replace an engine. As for the MAS/MAF...someone had a link for cheap used ones. You'd just have to dig a little to find the thread.

TURBOit, boost is boost. 9lbs from a t66 is the same as 9lbs from a td04. The Lancer can make 9 lbs on any kit so long as you can provide it with enough fuel.

Anyway...don't listen to spool. He's been doing stuff like that quite a lot recently. Personally, I think he's become very disenchanted with the Lancer.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by HobieKopek


TURBOit, boost is boost. 9lbs from a t66 is the same as 9lbs from a td04. The Lancer can make 9 lbs on any kit so long as you can provide it with enough fuel.

yea, thats why i was just saying you dont have to limit yourself, most peopel dont boost at 9 because their scared of internals, but like you said the main issue is getting enough fuel, but i was just making him aware that internals will hold so he doesnt have to worry about them, damn hobie, your a genious i will never know as much as you do, but i just try to provide correct information rather than saying something that is wrong


p.s. there are a few lancers along with hobie that have doen their own setups, i was looking at one last night but forget the name, but just look around and you'll find them, just see what route they took with the fuel aspect, better to get opnions and ideas from guys who have gone turbo than guys who dont have them, bc we all know once you you start you just cant stop

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Myself, motojoeusa, Hybrid t3/t4 (i think that's his name...something like that), airlinevomitbag (though I'm not sure if his is installed anymore), zlancer's RPW hybrid (no longer installed) and um...that's about all I can think of atm. They're basically all the non-standard turbocharged Lancers I can think of atm.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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that turbo will not work like you think it will. You will have a ton of turbo lag. By the time the turbo starts spooling, it'll be time to shift. you should think about getting a smaller turbo like a t-25 or t-28. I'm not even sure if that turbo would work on a 300z.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Angry IM LOOSING MY MIND!!


I put that turbo on 2 days ago and in the words of a complete IDIOT let me say this SPOOL LAG SPOOL LAG SPOOL LAG!!!!!
( gerogesmith123 why didnt you post 4 days ago)
That turbo is WAY WAY WAY to big and im taking it off tonight and puting it on e-bay along with all the other crap I riged up for it.
Every time I shifted the car fell on its face, I was getting pleanty of fuel pressure and true delivery, no detionaton, no lean or rich mix so I recorded the whole thing on a bearcat platform recorder and then played it back and just watched the carnival that was going on under the hood.
The turbo was eating the exaust but when it came time to open and push the stupid thing was so big it wasn't getting enough exaust p.
Now I have no other choice but to go to RPW and get the kit and the turbo from them.
It has been a total disaster.
Im going to hang my self from the engine lift with the timing belt!
I feel so ashamed Ive turboed, supercharged and juiced over 200 cars in my shop alone and this lancer is really starting to **** me off and wanna yank the engine and go oldschool balistic the budget ordeal is out the window this war.
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