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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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I wish it could be N/A but I know that's impossible.
with deep enough pockets it's probably possible. the car wouldn't be very "streetable" though
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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^^ Yeah - you're talking full port and polish, new head, cams, full engine management, higher compression pistons, head gasket, the works! But we'll wait to see what this engine as got.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gungrave
Hi I am new here so I think your gona be interest how many hp I took to my

Mirage LS with 4g94 engine block 176hp with 158 torque.

You're not telling the whole truth. No 5g Mirage LS came with a G94 from the factory, unless swapped, hit with nitro, or banged from a small turbo.

Only 1 G93 owner swapped to a G94 before swapping to an Evo +4 in the US. The 2nd guys hasn't been confirmed. This isn't a cost effective way. You can spec a G93 similar to a G94 like AQ who now owns a RA. Also, there are 2 others with a G15 swapping to a G94, not confirmed again.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bahamut
You're not telling the whole truth. No 5g Mirage LS came with a G94 from the factory, unless swapped, hit with nitro, or banged from a small turbo.

Only 1 G93 owner swapped to a G94 before swapping to an Evo +4 in the US. The 2nd guys hasn't been confirmed. This isn't a cost effective way. You can spec a G93 similar to a G94 like AQ who now owns a RA. Also, there are 2 others with a G15 swapping to a G94, not confirmed again.
I make a swap this cars Come with a G93 1.8L soch engine what I did is uses a G94 of a Lancer OZ rally edition 2003 block is the same has the 2006 Lancers ES,DS
put a G93 head the the pistons are custom made G5 the head have a good work on it but the think here is that engine block have low pistons and a red limit in 6,000.

What I do was use the Mirage ECU that limits 6,800 If you dint want to spend in
pistons buy pistons of mirage LS 1.8L that are high compression I leave you with this
tip. think about it.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gregivq
I wish it could be N/A but I know that's impossible.
Yes is possible is N/A the think here is you need to know the engine analized it.

you can take of it the HP that you want.


My car is a Mirage LS coupe 99 come with a 4g93 engine that is a 1.8L sohc

bored is 81mm with flat pistons.

The 4g94 engine look exactly like the 4g93 the think is here this engine comes with

bored 81.5mm and low pistons.


Here comes the little detail and tip.

What I do was buy 4g93 .40 pistons that are flat put into the 4g94 block use a
4g93 head and the ECU because the 4g93 engine the engine goes to 6,800 and the 4g94 is in 6,000 believed me 800 revolution make a lot of deference in this engine. Buy a American Cam with myown specs obviostly the other thinks like iceman,header,exhaust,fuel regulator have a good job on the head. that all.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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I leave you with this video of a event Mirage LS coupe shoot out.

my car is the second one appear make 13.3 with a bad 60ft.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1140399

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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the 1.8L G93 SOHC is about the same engine as what we have. Pistons compression is 9.5:1, same as ours. Good tip for the 1.5L guys, I suppose. However, the G93 DOHC had 10.5:1 compression

the G92 MIVEC was 11:1 and the G92 SOHC was 10:1 <- same family so they should fit... don't go buying them based on my info, though These are the "magic" engines that RPW would have you source to direct drop into your Lancer for maximum upgradability for least initial cost.

GunGrave, it sound slike you made extra work for yourself.... why did you use the G94 block with G93 overbored pistons, con rods, head and ECU? I'm not following how you're using a "G94" engine when it's mostly G93. Was this cheaper (easier?) than boring out and sleeving a G93?

Good work, though.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Alchemist
the 1.8L G93 SOHC is about the same engine as what we have. Pistons compression is 9.5:1, same as ours. Good tip for the 1.5L guys, I suppose. However, the G93 DOHC had 10.5:1 compression

the G92 MIVEC was 11:1 and the G92 SOHC was 10:1 <- same family so they should fit... don't go buying them based on my info, though These are the "magic" engines that RPW would have you source to direct drop into your Lancer for maximum upgradability for least initial cost.

GunGrave, it sound slike you made extra work for yourself.... why did you use the G94 block with G93 overbored pistons, con rods, head and ECU? I'm not following how you're using a "G94" engine when it's mostly G93. Was this cheaper (easier?) than boring out and sleeving a G93?

Good work, though.
For mitsus you got the G9 series is like honda with the Bseries, here from where I am the people put G92 head in G93 engine blocks obviosly using the G92 pistons
remember the G94 engine block have develope more torque and the pistons with
the head more compresion that should be my friend,you got torque by the engine block and HP with the little more compression. You can too put the G92 pistons in the G94 engine why the over sized to because .40 in the G93 is 82mm but the G94 block is 81.5 you only gonna bored .20 you gain little more torque and hp in that detail in the G94.

this are the G92 pistons the dohc mivec 1.6L engine you can put to the engine:

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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Which head are you using- the single or dual OHC? And which ECU? From your description, the advantage of the G93 ECU is the extra 800 RPM. That's a little scary on the G94 because of the difference in length of the rods- that might be a little too much extra, but I don't know.

I'm definitely taking notes! Thanks for your input.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Alchemist
Which head are you using- the single or dual OHC? And which ECU? From your description, the advantage of the G93 ECU is the extra 800 RPM. That's a little scary on the G94 because of the difference in length of the rods- that might be a little too much extra, but I don't know.

I'm definitely taking notes! Thanks for your input.

I am using for now sohc of G93, my goal for now is though the 12 sec with a sohc engine may be later I gonna do a real mitsu hybrid putting G92 head in the g94 engine block for run 12 low or in a future 11 sec.

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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well done with the build and results the All motor category is really starting to earn respect from those with boosted cars - how are you combating traction problems as I am guessing that to get down to a low 12sec you have been stripping the car down to bare minimum and possibly using slicks what about a LSD

I know with my 4G93 sohc I got 137hp atw with best track time of 15.6...

good work tho
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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When I had my lancer I had the very same idea of sourcing a G93 ECU and trying it. My mechanic told me that the ECU might not be compatible with the sensors from the G94.

What sensors are you using in your hybrid? The G94 sensors or the G93 sensors ?

I should have tried it but I could never get with KillahB to swap out the ECU's

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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i dynoed 246whp 222wtq with my 97 mirage LS (1.8 4g93) @ 11psi. motor is built from top to bottom. boosting on a t3/t4 .60 trim
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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^ do you have the dyno sheets? i'd be quite interested to have a look at them; those are good numbers.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Here is the results of the 4g9 series HYbrid I do on my mirage the car we make a change in the pistons and this he got a 4g94 Lancer Rally OZ edition 2003 4g93 sohc engine head of mirage LS can be 97 to 2002 ,American Cam, CP custom Pistons and mitsubishi 97 to 99 eclipse ECU FWD turbo the car is NA we use the ECU so the car move the red limit to 7,500 with that ECU course the ECU fit well in the car but he have few tricks to work the way you want.

He put down we tuned the car with the wrong Sunoco gasoline 176hp and 162 of toque , we try on the track with the correct Sunoco the car run better 1 mile more so we think the car have like 180 we run with street tire BF 15 Drag radials the cars dint have respect with them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10_DCBYt5P0


I apologized if I can put the paper of the Dyno because right now I am out of my country , the driver of the car is my friend and tuner Terry.


this is a photo
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