I/E/H and I.M... and i only gained that little... i dunno seems a lil low 2 me

cmon, 120 bhp, so like 98 whp? intake - 4-5 hp, catbak - 5-8 hp, header -8-10hp, I.M - 5 hp... least thats how I saw it, I see atleast 120 whp.

 

Guessing flywheel HP is much easier than @ whp, because manual doesn't take too much effort to make the car move.

Better TQ converter = higher stall speed. You can rev and hold your rpm to a certain level while mashing your brakes at the same time. Do it on a regular TQ converter, you'll cook your tranny going beyond 3 sec.

With your mods, I think you can compete up to 40 mph before the V6 starts to creep away, if both are auto.

I can't estimate HP, because I have only tuned one lancer, and the guys lives at Vero Beach. Header will give different HP to certain mods.

 

I think you might reconsider the 0-60 in around 7 sec, because you are competing w/ a prelude SH. I know a Tiby is no match for a prelude SH.

 

look at teh dynod lancer list and youll understand.

 

I know high 7's didnt seem right. But it made my day

I know its wrong.

heh, the manual lancer im thinkin bout has 57k miles on it, some cracked paint on the front bumper... 57k seems alot for a lancer, especially a tricked out one. They dont know how much there sellin it for. The only way I would do it, would be to straight up trade...well first i would take my I.M off and rims...hehe, i wish it had lower miles tho. i also dont know how bad it was abused

 

So in aspect of attaining my goal of mid 15's...what should I do?

I cant look at the dyno lancer list cause its really confussing, diff numbers with 2 many diff things.

 

It takes time to understand all the techno babble stuff. Rome wasn't built in one day nor was destroyed in one year either.

My average guess on flywheel
1) intake: about 2-3 (don't care for Import tuner getting an average of 6-8 HP for intake. I think they rigged the test comparing to SCC. Yes, I know they are under the same Publisher.)

2) catbak: 6-16 (have seen that much off. I don't believe A'pexi N1 exhaust results on the 240sx will net the same #'s for other car makes. Nevertheless, generally, people think the N1 is gospel of all performance muffler. To me, it's just loud, except on a 240sx)

3) header: 8-16 (depends heavily on your supporting mods. To me, header can negate Vtec on a d16, not B16 or higher.)

4) I.M: unknown. I have only seen it for extremely modded Silvia w/ SR20DET swaps, DSMs, and a few others. These are for those trying to blasted below 11.5 sec on the 1/4 mile. Results on those monsters are far different than for NA.

 

ok i used 8-15 for I.M...soo

50 max everything, 24 min everything.

so even if I got low everything, 120 +24 makes 144bhp, so wouldnt that put me at 120ish whp? now i dunno if i got low everything...id say I added 30 - 35, so 150 bhp, wouldnt that make 125 -130 whp? I dunno, I tried to base it off of the dyno'd lancer list. but there is just way to many differances. I would get my car dyno'd if i could but I dont know of anything near cincinnati. Plus there was no car on that list with the same mods as me.

Right now I just want a straight up explination from you (cause u are the man! i swear u r awsome) If getting mid 15's is possible with my auto, or if I need to get a stick and work from there. If you were in my situation what would you do? Theoretically I could always stick with the auto, and if I ever want/need to, find a totalled manual and swap trannys, right? i couldnt be that difficult right? or is it more cost effective to just start with a stick right now? lemme know what any of u think.

 

he's stick, 4 cylinder with an cold air intake. from a stop light to about 50 mph i wasn't very far behind at all (at most even with his tail end). i don't know much about tiburons, but my buddy says the older 4 cylinder ones are almost as fast as the new v6 ones cause the newer ones are so much bigger and heavier

my tires aren't stock, but they aren't good either. in the next few months i plan on upgrading them, but i have to stick with all weather peformance tires cause i need to drive in snow.

 

i was planning on going as far as i could N/A, but having roommates with an EVO and GSX, I'm getting pretty itchy to just go turbo. we drive each others cars every once in a while so getting stuck with no turbo gets depressing.

as for the discussion at hand, i don't think you'll see more than 150-160 with all of the mods on the first post (including 1.5 cam, gear, e-manage). in some old post, boe said he has tuned a lancer with those mods and saw (i think) 160 whp. but i think your auto will hinder that 15 sec goal of yours.

 

ok i used 8-15 for I.M...soo
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I think that's too high for NA. The G9x motor isn't going to cram more air than an ITR or any forced induction car.

All those figures that I written are basically for 4 bangers NA. Some of those figures work the best because of gimmicky valvetrain or what not.


GP,
W/ your mods, you lost to a 4 banger Tibby. Do you have an auto tranny? That can explain the lost. If the manual hits 3rd gear first, the auto tranny cannot produce enough power to run the rpm right fast enough.


Rhyzin,
Glad to hear. Stay the course to NA. You don't have to ever worry about high gas prices or frequent stops for gas. Once Super gets over $2.50, people will be *****in'.

Recently, crude oil is being traded at a whopping 53 bucks a barrel. When I was in HS, oil was traded are 11-15 bucks; during the first persian gulf war, it was floating in the 23 buck range. Inflation can't be that whacked within few years.

 

he also launched around 3k rpm, while i just mashed the gas when the light turned. but i honestly think i'll be able to take him soon enough, he didn't win by much

 

GP,

Ah. I figured out as so. When a manual holds rpm, a modded auto tranny will have a hard time keeping up w/ manual counterpart. It's a matter who hits 3rd gear first. For an an auto, it'll take a few secs for 3rd gear to roll right at 4200 rpm to start making effective power.

If he didn't hold rev like you, you would have won. Manaual has a hard time launching w/o holding revs.

 

i see what you mean. i guess we'll just have to wait and see. my reaction time is second to none, so once i get rid of throttle lag (ie my desire for bored tb and IM) i should be a tad better off.

 

Baha, I was lookin at that post u made in the driver technique section about our auto's. Is that the same tranny we use?

So we can change the gear ratio? or just the final drive? I was thinkin since 3rd gear is so bad in our auto like u said that might be able to help it out. what about that lsd? and shift kit, would those do us any benifits? or would it just be easier to swap a manual trans.

BTW that was some good stuff u posted