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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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look into a 4g93 or 92. 1.8lt turbo mivec. while they are truely rare engines to find, since they were only in southeast asia, and austraillia i believe. u can always seem 1 or 2 on ebay. nice part is they bolt right up. bad part 30-60k already on em.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Yo is this a emtional support group?

When putting on an intake, going to really notice it when you Tune after many mods. Again, I wont tue after an intake, kinda a waste. Wait till you get all the parts.( intake headers cat back, so on. ECT) than tune, I think your better off this way. You will not really notice gain when installing just an intake anyways. better throttle response. and you move the power band around.

Reset the ECU if your going to be installing mutliple parts so that the ECU will learn to the new conditions.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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for the people that are glad they didnt get civics. is it because everybody and their mom have a civic? and the fact that not as many people drive lancers as do civics?
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joberk3
for the people that are glad they didnt get civics. is it because everybody and their mom have a civic? and the fact that not as many people drive lancers as do civics?
That's part of it.

But so many Civic owners are ricers, that it tends to be a joke in the import world. So I think that's a part of it. It's to the point where owning a Civic has a stigma to it now.

"Hey, I just got a Civic!" tends to get followed by "So are you going up to Autozone to buy some APC now?"

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PS - I'm saying that unbiased. I see too many riced-out Civics, but I'd still love to own one as a beater car. They're nice little cars.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
That's part of it.

But so many Civic owners are ricers, that it tends to be a joke in the import world. So I think that's a part of it. It's to the point where owning a Civic has a stigma to it now.

"Hey, I just got a Civic!" tends to get followed by "So are you going up to Autozone to buy some APC now?"

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PS - I'm saying that unbiased. I see too many riced-out Civics, but I'd still love to own one as a beater car. They're nice little cars.

what are "ricers"?
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
That's part of it.

But so many Civic owners are ricers, that it tends to be a joke in the import world. So I think that's a part of it. It's to the point where owning a Civic has a stigma to it now.

"Hey, I just got a Civic!" tends to get followed by "So are you going up to Autozone to buy some APC now?"

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PS - I'm saying that unbiased. I see too many riced-out Civics, but I'd still love to own one as a beater car. They're nice little cars.

I think thats exactly what it is.

Even if the us lancer isnt the strongest of perf. cars, Its a fun car nuntheless. If your looking for a really fast car that doesnt take a lot of money to make even faster, you should look for a different car.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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from WRXtoEvo hit it right on the head. Truth: the Lancer engine is the same block as a Mirage 1.6 bored out to 2.0 so you can't bore it out much more (if any at all), and even without boring it the walls are so thin NOS will destroy it, which is also the reason you have to watch PSI when running an intercooled turbo. It's just not a good engine to mod. Then you get to suspension. The Lancer does handle pretty well for what it is, but it has static camber which pales in comparison to the Hondas which have dynamic camber. The weight of the car is also a disadvantage.

All in all, it's exactly what I bought it for... something that was about as efficient as a Civic, but wasn't a Civic! I just modded it because I can't resist.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shannoncorp
what are "ricers"?
Seriously?

OK, I'm going to assume so rather than waiting for a response.

The word gets thrown around a lot. Rice is somewhat synonymous with Asians. So it has different meanings.

If a guy in a Camaro with a mullet says it, it probably means anyone driving an Asian import.

If a kid in a Lancer calls you a ricer, it means he thinks your car is dumb.

The traditional meaning of rice/ricer/ricey is a car made to look fast. It's slow as sin, but it has a hood scoop, a huge wing, and a massive muffler. The car puts down two-digit HP, but it's made up to look like a 600 HP Skyline.

Got it?
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by joberk3
for the people that are glad they didnt get civics. is it because everybody and their mom have a civic? and the fact that not as many people drive lancers as do civics?
i only say this because the model that was available at the time the lancer came out (7th gen civic) wasnt inpressive at all, when it came out civics had really built theire rep as being "the car the do horrible mods to" plus the fact that that particular 1.7lt K-series engine sucks, i know 2 people that have blown their engines, one of my friends is on his 3rd one, but he drives like an ***...

anywho, the power and gains in the base civic arent exactly something id say to be amazing compared to the engine we have, the only impressive engine lately in the civics is the new SI (as of 2002 when the Lancer came out), the previous SI before it blew goats too.

plus price, the options in the Lancer ES equal about the same as a civic LX, but the civic costs way more due to demand
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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plus price, the options in the Lancer ES equal about the same as a civic LX, but the civic costs way more due to demand
but civics hold value way better than a lancer, you can get a 2004 lancer es with 20kmiles for about 7 grand while a a 97 civic ex with 65k on it for about the same price
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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but civics hold value way better than a lancer, you can get a 2004 lancer es with 20kmiles for about 7 grand while a a 97 civic ex with 65k on it for about the same price
yeah but when buying new its a different story, i got my 02 lancer in november of 01
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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I wouldn't call the 4g94 the worse engine to mod, dude look at it this way, what if you was in a shoes of a lancer owner, I know you wouldn't call your car wack....com'on man I know you own an evo and all, but you aint gotta go diss the lancer like that...
I wouldn't call it the worst engine to modify anyway....that totally depends on the aftermarket parts availability for power modifications. That is what gives an engine potential. The reason the evo has soo much potential is because it already has a race inspired motor. Not only that but the parts/tuner availability for that car is massive. Thats what makes the evo what it is. The lancer is limited to modifications because of the tuners out there. When my lancer was totaled...i had the option to go buy another lancer..but then i realize i want something that can make massive power with little money. The answer was a 4G63T powered eclipse. I understand that some of you guys need reliability, gas mileage, and 4 doors to carry around a family while keeping bills low and its perfect for you guys to drive a lancer. If i was in the same boat, I would have got another lancer. I love the lancer...it looks great, its spacious and does give you that feeling of authority against corollas and civics when you have your foot on the gas. But other than that..its just that. I wouldnt invest $3000 for an i/c turbo kit and max out at 250-300 fwhp. $18k car + $3k modifications = $21k = 2003 Evo with decent miles. Thats just me though...we all have our opinions and it all comes down to whatever makes you happy. If insurance is a problem...then that is also understandable if you want to turbo your lancer. The lancers biggest aftermarket performance parts maker is RRM. I miss my lancer's sexy looks and its reliability with smooth acceleration. When i had my lancer...i loved modifying the car. It made me happy...but i knew there was a limit to modifications and thats why I now drive an eclipse....It ALL comes down to whatever makes you happy. We shouldnt look at each other saying "hes modifying a pos car"...thats not right and we shouldnt judge people based on that. We should look at it as "He likes cars and loves to modify, maybe we could get along".
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Thank you Lancerlover, its all about the heart. If you want to put money into a car you call your own great. It might not be a drag racer. But if you put some mods onto the Lancer and everytime you get on it, it makes you smile, then you have a unique car that is your pride and joy. When it comes down to it, if you love your Lance, then give it some love and let it breathe. Go ahead, put on that CAI and SRI!
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Hey i was in the same shoes as you a while ago. Seriously don't worry about how your car is relative to other cars. Your car should only be about one thing: you. I bought what I liked and could afford, and I love to mod it and make it my own. How many people are really serious about racing anyways? Put some bolt ons on there, f*** up some 89 accords with huge wings and no mufflers, and do it all in style. No matter what anyone says, any car has the potential to coincide with something you want. so make your lancer your own and enjoy

heres a thread i started like this one a while ago. havn't read it for a long time but a lot of good stuff in there.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=mod+lancer
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
but civics hold value way better than a lancer, you can get a 2004 lancer es with 20kmiles for about 7 grand while a a 97 civic ex with 65k on it for about the same price
where?! i got my 04 es for 11,500 last august. and this was 3k below blue book
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