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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I don't think the price of GTS will increase a whole lot when Mitsu will increase the engine displacement in the current GTS to 2.4l, look at Dodge pricing with World Engines (look at the pricing difference of 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander ES with 3.0l and 2008 Outlander 2.4l, we are talking $21500 vs $20000), difference will be roughly about $1000-$1500 from the 2.0l version. The basic GTS with 2.4l should start at around $20500.
its just speculation, but i think that mitsu is attempting to capitialize on its early success a little to fast after they noticed the attention the GTS got vs. its other trims. now of course its the same car. The fact that they are doing this is most likely to me to make money. I think the GTS of 2008 was under priced, mitsu could have charged 3000 more and i still would have bought it. they realize that and with the next time will not make the same mistake.

changing the specs in a car like this will incure higher production costs. these costs will be passed on to the consumer. they will also charge more for the larger engine and other changes not that visible.

lol pricing it 30,000 in my example is over the top, but my speculating price is going to be about 25k


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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
its just speculation, but i think that mitsu is attempting to capitialize on its early success a little to fast after they noticed the attention the GTS got vs. its other trims. now of course its the same car. The fact that they are doing this is most likely to me to make money. I think the GTS of 2008 was under priced, mitsu could have charged 3000 more and i still would have bought it. they realize that and with the next time will not make the same mistake.

changing the specs in a car like this will incure higher production costs. these costs will be passed on to the consumer. they will also charge more for the larger engine and other changes not that visible.

lol pricing it 30,000 in my example is over the top, but my speculating price is going to be about 25k


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I don't agree with you on the potential pricing of 2009 GTS. If the only difference between 2008 GTS and 2009 GTS will be the bump in displacement then the price difference of base models will differ by $1500 the most. What is the difference between base GTS and base ES? The body kit (which is just molded plastic that Mitsubishi probably doesn't cost more than $300, I know you can buy the lip, side sill extensions, rear spoiler separate and it will cost you about $800 from Mitsu website but thats not the price Mitsubishi has to pay when they install those pieces at their factory in Japan, it's probably much less, same goes for the bigger breaks, the fog lights, paddle shifters, "sports" tuned suspension, rims, those are not expensive items at manufacturing costs so I don't think the current GTS is underpriced. Of course your local dealer would charge you a crapload for either of the upgrades but thats why cars come with packages straight from the factory, to reduce costs/prices.

The original Mitsubishi plan was to release a 2008 GTS in 2.4l trim from the get go, they didn't do it due to budget constraints. If they did, the difference between base ES and base GTS wouldn't be $1700 like it is today, it would probably be a difference of more than $3000 which would make the ES look better price wise. Most purchases are on 48/60 month loans and the current difference between ES and GTS loan wise is about $35-$60 (depending on downpayment) which is not a whole lot. Current Lancer GTS is a nice looking car but its a FWD 2.0l econobox and w/o the S&S or Navi package it doesn't offer a whole lot on the inside either compared to the competition so I just don't see a base GTS cost $25K, not even close.

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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wellll im stuck with my 08 gts b/c im a college student that bought his first car on his name so untill i pay off the loan....i'll be driving this car.... ohhh wellll
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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so my 2.0L for your 2.4?? lol trade?? hey guys at works... where can i get those brembo brakes on that 08 lancer... they look sooooo sek si...
We've been known to offer credits for good engine cores As of right now, the Brembo fittings are a one-off design for the SWC chassis. If there's a demand for the setup, we might look into the possibility of making a production version.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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As of right now, the Brembo fittings are a one-off design for the SWC chassis. If there's a demand for the setup, we might look into the possibility of making a production version.
I DEMAND THE BREMBO SET-UP!!!
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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what do we want??? BREMBO BRAKES!!!!! WHEN DO WE WANT IT???? UM...as soon as possible? lol
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
its just speculation, but i think that mitsu is attempting to capitialize on its early success a little to fast after they noticed the attention the GTS got vs. its other trims. now of course its the same car. The fact that they are doing this is most likely to me to make money. I think the GTS of 2008 was under priced, mitsu could have charged 3000 more and i still would have bought it. they realize that and with the next time will not make the same mistake.

changing the specs in a car like this will incure higher production costs. these costs will be passed on to the consumer. they will also charge more for the larger engine and other changes not that visible.

lol pricing it 30,000 in my example is over the top, but my speculating price is going to be about 25k


i am 90% sure
Absolutely no way. I don't see them raising the price at all for the new 2.4L version. The only thing they're changing is the engine, which really isn't going to add much of anything to the production cost. Pricing the GTS at 25k would be ludicris, especially considering there's still a new Ralliart on the horizon that's expected to be priced in the mid-20's, as well as a RS version of the Evo that should sit at right about 30k. A $25k GTS just wouldn't sell up against those other two options.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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lol actually i think i see where some of this is getting a bit confusing. lol i am still refering to our defunct Canadian Vs. US pricing, at least with the Mitsu its not that far off compared to the other auto companies.
But my point is, with a engine change plus other changes that are not compatible with the 2.0 line, Mitsubishi will raise the price to be both inline with the production cost changes, and also to capitalize on the demand for the GTS trim. The GTS was a complete success, completely sold out up here in canada with a line that stretched to 3 months plus.

Marketing would dicate they would use this excuse to justify a stiff price increase. my final point on that would be, people would pay the premium either way. The car as is compared to others in the segment is a value deal / bang for your buck. Only time will tell i guess. Lets see what the official pricing is for the EVO, so much delaying
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
lol actually i think i see where some of this is getting a bit confusing. lol i am still refering to our defunct Canadian Vs. US pricing, at least with the Mitsu its not that far off compared to the other auto companies.
Talk in American, damn you!
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
lol actually i think i see where some of this is getting a bit confusing. lol i am still refering to our defunct Canadian Vs. US pricing, at least with the Mitsu its not that far off compared to the other auto companies.
But my point is, with a engine change plus other changes that are not compatible with the 2.0 line, Mitsubishi will raise the price to be both inline with the production cost changes, and also to capitalize on the demand for the GTS trim. The GTS was a complete success, completely sold out up here in canada with a line that stretched to 3 months plus.

Marketing would dicate they would use this excuse to justify a stiff price increase. my final point on that would be, people would pay the premium either way. The car as is compared to others in the segment is a value deal / bang for your buck. Only time will tell i guess. Lets see what the official pricing is for the EVO, so much delaying
Change your location so I know that you're Canadian and that it's okay to immediately ignore anything you say. I still think your prices are high, but I can't say for sure because auto manufacturers don't seem to be responding to the current exchange rate.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by krnkimchi702
what do we want??? BREMBO BRAKES!!!!! WHEN DO WE WANT IT???? UM...as soon as possible? lol
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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so does anyone want to speculate what the detuned PZEV version of the 4b12 is going to be? anyone think it will be par with the Non-PZEV 4b11.

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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so does anyone want to speculate what the detuned PZEV version of the 4b12 is going to be? anyone think it will be par with the Non-PZEV 4b11.

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PZEV version of the 4B12 will probably be higher than the non PZEV 4B11. I would guess around 158-160 hp.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
so does anyone want to speculate what the detuned PZEV version of the 4b12 is going to be? anyone think it will be par with the Non-PZEV 4b11.

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The 2008 Outlander ES comes with a 2.4l 4B12 engine that is rated at 168HP/167lbs-ft so the 2009 Lancer GTS should offer about the same numbers.

http://media.mitsubishicars.com/deta...69457&mime=ASC
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