Sprint Booster, how does it work?
also as a side note. If this product works so well, why aren't all the major manufacturers making it to?
Where's AEM, RRM, Greddy, etc etc? Shouldn't they have their own versions of this amazing product on the market?
Where's AEM, RRM, Greddy, etc etc? Shouldn't they have their own versions of this amazing product on the market?
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im sure other companys have them also, but u just have 2 look 4 it rofl
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b/c its been patented . blitz has the adjustable one.. which is a mess to install compared to SB. Other manufactures you mention have also had a version but not released.
To add...its also TUV approved... which is hard to get these days.
To add...its also TUV approved... which is hard to get these days.
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but honeslty i dont think sprint booster is worth $300.... not even close
im sure mark up on this product is huge
im glad i got mine no where near that price
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I'm not saying no test can validate this product. Just that a spirited drive is about as useful as you pushing the car. The data collected would be useless because of all the variables.
A controlled test would be better. Like a 0-60. If you collected your data with a controlled test and showed us the results I'd be open to that.
ROGER THAT
Sorry to tell you this but YES, your opinion and perspective are completely irrelevant as they are subject to change and are an unreliable source of data.
If you're in a good mood the car may feel faster compared to when you're in a bad mood.
Then why not bring in senseless and uninformed test drivers. It would take me very little effort to get 4 cars from Mitsubishi or Dealership *haha this economy has alot of cars sitting on parking lots* Why not line up the cars, and let people take them out for a drive , as a blind study. I mean thats how they do drug evaluation test right? Lets do a double blind study. I am willing to bet, good money too,
that after the test, people will perfer the CVT performance/ response vs. the car without Sprint booster. I am so confident in my irrelevant position, I will double the stakes.
The lancer comes in 2 variants right? The 2.0L engine and the 2.4L engine. Everything else is the same. I am pretty confident, that if you out fitted a Sprint booster, in the 2.0L engine and left the 2.4L stock, I am pretty sure, 8/10 would perfer the driving profile of the 2.0L CVT.
This bold, some would say this is useless. Some say this is illogical, but lol I will make it interesting, I will put up 50 dollars in a bet. And since I would like there to be some benefit out of this, I will donate that money to the charity of Amby's choice. Check Cut and everything. This isnt anyone else's offer but mine.
2 CARS
5, 9 people
Turn them lose on a track or closed circuit course
And have a clear majority of them (say 75% perfer) perfer the 2.0L engine.
Remember there is no visual difference between the the SE and the GTS. When they get in the car. Logic would say the 2.4L engine would win 100%, clearly, right?
Crypto, I like you because you have an open mind, and there is more then enough common sense to you. I am asking you to help me come up with a test that would or may increase valid data for or against this product. and your right, my position is subject to change and it should be. My opinion is based on the accumulation of information from credible sources.
My nature is I have an affinity for fact finding, gathering information, and sharing information. I am a very open source guy at heart.
Now people can choose to take your opinion and base their purchase off it, but to most smart people, actual data showing improvement is gonna be the deciding factor when spending $300 on something.
Now saying all this, I honestly think you're wasting your time. Pretty much all the sensors are going to tell you is that with the sprint booster you are giving the car X amount more throttle when compared to driving without it.
Although, according to your logic, you will get a different set of results every time no matter how controlled because the "goal posts" are always being moved, with or without the SB
(because it doesn't control the transmission)
You under estimate how much more or as advanced the TCU is, it rivals the ECU in terms of control. If there is a fault, the TCU is what calls the shots, and affects the cars performance. I will say that they they are equal at the very least in terms of the complexity and control of the cars motion. *** REFERING TO THE CVT ONLY.
But it's your time and money, so have at it
A controlled test would be better. Like a 0-60. If you collected your data with a controlled test and showed us the results I'd be open to that.
ROGER THAT
Sorry to tell you this but YES, your opinion and perspective are completely irrelevant as they are subject to change and are an unreliable source of data.
If you're in a good mood the car may feel faster compared to when you're in a bad mood.
Then why not bring in senseless and uninformed test drivers. It would take me very little effort to get 4 cars from Mitsubishi or Dealership *haha this economy has alot of cars sitting on parking lots* Why not line up the cars, and let people take them out for a drive , as a blind study. I mean thats how they do drug evaluation test right? Lets do a double blind study. I am willing to bet, good money too,
that after the test, people will perfer the CVT performance/ response vs. the car without Sprint booster. I am so confident in my irrelevant position, I will double the stakes. The lancer comes in 2 variants right? The 2.0L engine and the 2.4L engine. Everything else is the same. I am pretty confident, that if you out fitted a Sprint booster, in the 2.0L engine and left the 2.4L stock, I am pretty sure, 8/10 would perfer the driving profile of the 2.0L CVT.
This bold, some would say this is useless. Some say this is illogical, but lol I will make it interesting, I will put up 50 dollars in a bet. And since I would like there to be some benefit out of this, I will donate that money to the charity of Amby's choice. Check Cut and everything. This isnt anyone else's offer but mine.
2 CARS
5, 9 people
Turn them lose on a track or closed circuit course
And have a clear majority of them (say 75% perfer) perfer the 2.0L engine.
Remember there is no visual difference between the the SE and the GTS. When they get in the car. Logic would say the 2.4L engine would win 100%, clearly, right?
Crypto, I like you because you have an open mind, and there is more then enough common sense to you. I am asking you to help me come up with a test that would or may increase valid data for or against this product. and your right, my position is subject to change and it should be. My opinion is based on the accumulation of information from credible sources.
My nature is I have an affinity for fact finding, gathering information, and sharing information. I am a very open source guy at heart.
Now people can choose to take your opinion and base their purchase off it, but to most smart people, actual data showing improvement is gonna be the deciding factor when spending $300 on something.
Now saying all this, I honestly think you're wasting your time. Pretty much all the sensors are going to tell you is that with the sprint booster you are giving the car X amount more throttle when compared to driving without it.
Although, according to your logic, you will get a different set of results every time no matter how controlled because the "goal posts" are always being moved, with or without the SB
(because it doesn't control the transmission)
You under estimate how much more or as advanced the TCU is, it rivals the ECU in terms of control. If there is a fault, the TCU is what calls the shots, and affects the cars performance. I will say that they they are equal at the very least in terms of the complexity and control of the cars motion. *** REFERING TO THE CVT ONLY.
But it's your time and money, so have at it
what is the patent no. ?
just curious.
also the product may be patented but its kinda dumb since its just an amplifier, it be like someone patenting an amplifier that produces better sound in your car. if that was the case then NO one else would be able to sell amplifiers for sound for use in a motor vehicle other than the patent holder. i could go on and on with the analogies on patenting such a general product...
either way i may be wrong about the patent but i just find it interesting.
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Thats where International law comes in and patents. Hense the whole supply and demand thing comes in. And in some ways where law some what helps or hurts markets.
When you patent something, its yours, your idea. I speculate that there is a patent for this device. I beleive the Blitz device may go about doing this in a different manner. hahah its entirely possible a lawsuit maybe filed between the two.
INJEN has their MR technology
AEM has its V2 intake design
Do you remember the farce of the RIMM dispute with NTP. they sued RIMM because they were using designs that were patented. There is a company that has a set of spark plug wires that increase the spark potential, how many other companies made that? not many. While on the topic of sparks, Plustar has a capacitor in the spark plug. Its a smart idea. And you can bet your ***, if it wasnt pattened, NGK and Denso and the lot of them would be attempting to improve on that design. the best thing they can do is come close with a completely different design.
The only thing they can do is buy the company out. Which I assume they have tabled offers, but if the company that owns the patent has deep pockets, then they can hold the idea ransom indefinitely.
Litigation law man hahah thats where the money is.
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what is the patent no. ?
just curious.
also the product may be patented but its kinda dumb since its just an amplifier, it be like someone patenting an amplifier that produces better sound in your car. if that was the case then NO one else would be able to sell amplifiers for sound for use in a motor vehicle other than the patent holder. i could go on and on with the analogies on patenting such a general product...
either way i may be wrong about the patent but i just find it interesting.
just curious.
also the product may be patented but its kinda dumb since its just an amplifier, it be like someone patenting an amplifier that produces better sound in your car. if that was the case then NO one else would be able to sell amplifiers for sound for use in a motor vehicle other than the patent holder. i could go on and on with the analogies on patenting such a general product...
either way i may be wrong about the patent but i just find it interesting.
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either way regardless im just sayin other companys do make them, even though both blitz and pivot racing are adjustable, same **** different pile
but honeslty i dont think sprint booster is worth $300.... not even close
im sure mark up on this product is huge
im glad i got mine no where near that price
but honeslty i dont think sprint booster is worth $300.... not even close
im sure mark up on this product is huge
im glad i got mine no where near that price
anyways whats your experience?
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Why when i use a word, it becomes a catch phrase of the company lol. So in your opinion, is there no test on earth that can validate this or any other product.
Making claims is a two way street, and please logic is a poor substitute. Please validate your claims of a placebo effect. dont explain it to me, prove it. To say something does something, and not prove it is pretty Illogical conclution. Since your following Amby's lead on this I will let him explain it. He is a Vulcan you know This is a two way street, if all my experience and perspective is rendered useless, its fair to assume by the same standards the other side of the argument is equality useless.
Getting back to your claim that i highlighted above, your telling me, that the car would act exactly the same regardless. Lets factor both normal and ultra aggressive driving. you concluding without a trial, that there is no impact. and no gain. That sounds very odd. I mean what would be the harm of testing and viewing the very sensors that the TCU uses for making its calculations. Tell or explain to me and everyone one else here, why SENSOR data capture in its entirety a fruitless venture. See from Ambys post after yours, even 0-60 is useless. Which I disagree with, I beleive its a pretty good indicator, the only problem is sometimes it can be inconclusive because there is a human element to it, or I should say human error. I think what you meant to say is all those types of tests, bring us closer to validating the results, no test is perfect in its controls. but its a building of evidence right?
Making claims is a two way street, and please logic is a poor substitute. Please validate your claims of a placebo effect. dont explain it to me, prove it. To say something does something, and not prove it is pretty Illogical conclution. Since your following Amby's lead on this I will let him explain it. He is a Vulcan you know
This is a two way street, if all my experience and perspective is rendered useless, its fair to assume by the same standards the other side of the argument is equality useless.Getting back to your claim that i highlighted above, your telling me, that the car would act exactly the same regardless. Lets factor both normal and ultra aggressive driving. you concluding without a trial, that there is no impact. and no gain. That sounds very odd. I mean what would be the harm of testing and viewing the very sensors that the TCU uses for making its calculations. Tell or explain to me and everyone one else here, why SENSOR data capture in its entirety a fruitless venture. See from Ambys post after yours, even 0-60 is useless. Which I disagree with, I beleive its a pretty good indicator, the only problem is sometimes it can be inconclusive because there is a human element to it, or I should say human error. I think what you meant to say is all those types of tests, bring us closer to validating the results, no test is perfect in its controls. but its a building of evidence right?
Again, and this is the point that is apparently flying over your head, explain how the two would differ given what we know about the SB. More importantly, explain how it is different from simply applying more throttle. You have tried in the past and it has failed horribly.
Even SB indicates that it will not decrease 0-60 time, how can you argue with the manufacturer? Do you also believe an intake helps handling? As I outlined in my post, collecting data from all the sensors is useless because it's simply too much data, you can draw conclusions that aren't actually there simply because of the complexity of the system.
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I may have mentioned this before, I think when amby mentioned something similar about, " I can build something like this for a fraction of the cost"
Thats where International law comes in and patents. Hense the whole supply and demand thing comes in. And in some ways where law some what helps or hurts markets.
When you patent something, its yours, your idea. I speculate that there is a patent for this device. I beleive the Blitz device may go about doing this in a different manner. hahah its entirely possible a lawsuit maybe filed between the two.
INJEN has their MR technology
AEM has its V2 intake design
Do you remember the farce of the RIMM dispute with NTP. they sued RIMM because they were using designs that were patented. There is a company that has a set of spark plug wires that increase the spark potential, how many other companies made that? not many. While on the topic of sparks, Plustar has a capacitor in the spark plug. Its a smart idea. And you can bet your ***, if it wasnt pattened, NGK and Denso and the lot of them would be attempting to improve on that design. the best thing they can do is come close with a completely different design.
The only thing they can do is buy the company out. Which I assume they have tabled offers, but if the company that owns the patent has deep pockets, then they can hold the idea ransom indefinitely.
Litigation law man hahah thats where the money is.
Thats where International law comes in and patents. Hense the whole supply and demand thing comes in. And in some ways where law some what helps or hurts markets.
When you patent something, its yours, your idea. I speculate that there is a patent for this device. I beleive the Blitz device may go about doing this in a different manner. hahah its entirely possible a lawsuit maybe filed between the two.
INJEN has their MR technology
AEM has its V2 intake design
Do you remember the farce of the RIMM dispute with NTP. they sued RIMM because they were using designs that were patented. There is a company that has a set of spark plug wires that increase the spark potential, how many other companies made that? not many. While on the topic of sparks, Plustar has a capacitor in the spark plug. Its a smart idea. And you can bet your ***, if it wasnt pattened, NGK and Denso and the lot of them would be attempting to improve on that design. the best thing they can do is come close with a completely different design.
The only thing they can do is buy the company out. Which I assume they have tabled offers, but if the company that owns the patent has deep pockets, then they can hold the idea ransom indefinitely.
Litigation law man hahah thats where the money is.
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i got way less then even the 200 something, i cant remember now i think i got it 4 100 somethin, cant remember, iv had this for a long time, at least a good 6 months ago myb even longer, since summer, when the canadian dollar was strong still rofl
experience wise, its alrite, but i kinda have 2 agree with abby on the placebo sorry 2 say, cause i know it doesnt create any hp, it gives the same effect as if i were 2 floor it, but yet im not flooring it, like it "feels" more sensative thats really about it, like im sure its not a scam or anything, but dont xpect anything from it xcept for "feel"
but def not worth $300, not even worth considering at this price
its just like.... when have u ever even heard of pivot racing
but im just saying its not just SB that makes this product