so from what i understand if i want to get aftermarket pedals, i would just buy them and then screw them onto my current ones? i dont see how that improves anything...i was under the impression i was supposed to remove the old pedal and replace with new. Can anyone correct my misfindings? i know im wrong some where in my thinking...so How do i install aftermarket pedals? im soo confused...

 

Ok there are more then one type of aftermarket pedal. They range from a full removal of the old pedal and install of a whole new piece to simple plastic covers that double sided tape on (do NOT get those) New pedals will serve two purposes, the primary being simply looks, the second being traction on the pedals if you dont like how the stock feel. I have Nokya's on mine simply b/c i like the slightly wider pedal and they look a heck of alot nicer. Those install with simple clamp mechanisms at the corners and a couple screws into the pedal surface. Just a suggestion though if you go that way do not use the screws they give you. Go to lowes or homedepot and get screws that wont rust. The ones they give you are cheap and WILL rust out. Goodluck

 

ok so when you say screw to surface do u mean the stock black plastic thing or do i remove that first? casue wouldnt putting the new pedal over the old do nothing more than if i just put the double sided tape one? i just dont get it...like do i take off the old one first or do i leave it and apply something on top..? also if u put it on top it would make the pedal heavier right? dont u normally want lighter?

 

Pedal covers weigh all of a couple ounces. The cheap ones are plastic the better ones are billet aluminum, both very light. And no for the cover type pedals you dont need to take anything off. Simply apply over the black rubber pedal cover. To install the screws you drill pilot holes through the black rubber and the metal pedal support behind and then just screw into it. Like i said its mostly for looks and partially to change the feel of the pedal surface. Having the stock black rubber pedal cover under it only serves to obsorb some vibration.

 

THANK YOU!!! I finally get what i am supposed to do. i think ill be ordering some now, just wanted to make sure i knew what i had to do before i spent the money. thanks. main reason i want new is cause my foot slips off in the rain..and i dont see that being safe so i want something with a lil more traction. thank you for all of ur help.

 

There is more than look when it comes to pedal selection. You also have to look at pupose and what kind of driving you like. If you're the type of person who likes to heel/toe you'll want a larger brake pedal, or a larger Gas pedal to make it easier to push down both pedals at the same time.

 

whats the benefit of doing heel toe?

 

Next time your in your car, go from 3ed to 2nd gear and come off the clutch as fast as possable. You will feel your car jerk like it hit something. Now at high speeds, or in a corner, if you do that you will lose traction then slide into something and die. Thus Heel+Toe. As you are slowing your car, you rev the engine to match RPM levels and down shift. You therefore you do not loose traction and the car stays in the power band.


Word.

 

now when u say match RPMs u mean go to what i would normally shift up at, or do i do something different...i mean i am on my 4th day of driving a stick so my questions my be stupid..but im just trying to fiugre all this out. Thanks for the help.

 

This is only an example. The numbers are off a little

At 6000 rpm, the 3rd gear makes you go at 80mph
At 80pmh the 4th gear run around 3-4000 rpm

So let say you're driving in 4th gear at 80 mph, you see a corner coming up and decide you need to downshift in 3rd in order to turn-in as safe as possible and track out as fast as possible(slow in/fast out). In order to have a smooth tansition between gears, and to avoid unnecessary wieght transfer you'll want to match the speed/rpm of the 4th gear to the speed/rpm of the 3rd gear since you want to downshift in 3rd.

So you will:

clutch in
apply the brakes with your toes
give some gas with your heel to rev up to where you need it
downshift
release the clutch and let go of the gas accordingly(depends what situation you're in)
complete your turn-in, and has you are tracking out, you will apply gas

You will track out fast since you will already be in your power band

There are thread where people explain it better than I do
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/driving-techniques-65/
http://www.mitsubishicarclubcanada.c...d6f533b10afade
http://www.mitsubishicarclubcanada.c...d6f533b10afade

 

give some gas with your heel to rev up to where you need it


so where i would need to be is at is that 6000rpms?

 

With the number I put in the above situation that would be correct.
In 4th at 80pmh, you'd want to brake, then rev up to 6000rpm and downshift to achieve a smooth shift.

But keep the following in mind:
Heel/toe means your also braking at the same time, so the numbers are always changing.

gear/rpm/speed will never, never change
But since you're in a braking motion, the speed gets lower. So when you started applying the brakes you were going 80mph in 4th. By the time you got your heel on the gas pedal you might be down to 70mph, so you'd have to rev to what ever rpm that's suitable for 70mph in 3rd

Have I lost you yet?

I prefer over-reving a gear than under-reving it. The car will jerk way less in an over-rev situation as weight transfer won't be as bad. Weight transfer should be one of your best friend, but it can stab you in the back at any time if you don't use it properly.

The best way to start practicing that technic is to do it while you're slowing down for a stop or a red light(when no-one is in front).

At first, just get out of gear, apply the brakes with your toes and rev up the engine with your heel. That will allow you muscular memory to remember where the brake and gas pedal are.

Once you get comfy with that, you can start getting into lower gear while you're braking and reving up. Once you get really really comfy with the technic you do it before you enter a corner.

When you master the technic, then you apply it in the corner. But somebody more qualified than me will tell you where in the corner. I'd think at the apex, or at the begining of the track out, but I'm not sure and don't want to lead you in the wrong direction.

 

i think you have the wrong car if you wanna do heel+toe....you should get a silvia(240sx) its much more fun.

 

^^^^Yeah, lets try and get the kid killed. Remember he's only on his 4th day of mtx driving, lets have him practice on a 240....

 

Wow... Just wow. What kind of comment is that. Heel/toe can be performed in any car. Gotta love ignorance.