View Poll Results: undercar neons or no?
yes they are cool



183
58.84%
no they are stupid



128
41.16%
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Underbody Neons | Anything and Everything [ALL THREADS MERGED]
I don't know for sure. I just see that they make all different types of signs and any custom work with neons.
Gresham Neon & Signs
21551 SE Stark St, Gresham, OR 97030
Phone: (503) 666-8821
Gresham Neon & Signs
21551 SE Stark St, Gresham, OR 97030
Phone: (503) 666-8821
just about every town has 2-3-12 of those places.
but unless someone is looking up at the bottom of your car... they aren't going to see any pattern... it's not going to display on the ground.
but unless someone is looking up at the bottom of your car... they aren't going to see any pattern... it's not going to display on the ground.
I got this response directly from the Florida Highway Patrol!!!!!
This is the laws concerning Florida!
DATE: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:22:56
From: "FHP" <FHP@hsmv.state.fl.us>
The following is a copy of a legal opinion from our Office of General
Counsel regarding the issue of neon lights on vehicles and asks
the following question; does Florida law prohibit neon lights, which
are installed underneath motor vehicles?
Unless the vehicle displays a blue or amber light which is prohibited
by section 316.2397, F.S., or a red light visible from the front
which is prohibited by the same statute, neon lights mounted on
the undercarriage of a vehicle are not prohibited by Florida law.
Your inquiry concerns the legality of neon lights, which are installed
underneath a motor vehicle. This legal opinion does not address
lights which are mounted on the front, sides, or rear of the vehicle,
which would be subject to specific sections of chapter 316, F.S.;
see, for example, sections 316.220, 316.221, and 316.224. Also,
it should be noted that the neon lights do not flash. If these
lights were flashing, they would be prohibited by section 316.2397(6).
No statute expressly prohibits installing lights underneath a motor
vehicle. However, the display of a blue light by any vehicle other
than a police vehicle is prohibited by section 316.2397(2). Also,
no vehicle is authorized to display a red light, which is visible
from the front, unless the vehicle meets the exceptions delineated
in section 316.3297(3), such as fire department vehicles. Only certain
vehicles noted in section 316.2397, including road service vehicles
in operation, vehicles, which escort over-dimens
ioned (wide-load) equipment, material or buildings, and wreckers,
may display further, amber lights. For a complete list of authorized
vehicles, which may display red, blue, or amber lights, please refer
to section 316.2397. Thus, if a blue or amber light were visible
from a vehicle, which does not meet one of the exceptions provided
by law, the display of such light would be prohibited by section
316.2397. Similarly, if a vehicle displays a red light, which is
visible from the front, a violation of the same statute is committed.
The fact that the light is mounted underneath the vehicle is not
a stated defense or exception recognized by section 316.2397. The
Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles classify this offense
as a nonmoving infraction for which no points are assessed. It
should be pointed out that sections 316.216 or 316.24 do not require the Department.
To approve the neon lights prior to installation underneath a vehicle.
Section 316.216, authorizes the Department to approve or disapprove
lighting devices and to issue and enforce regulations concerning
installation, adjustment, and aiming of these devices. The regulations
shall be consistent with standards and specifications of the society
of automotive engineers that are applicable to such equipment. No
such standards have been promulgated by the society of automotive
engineers and the Department has no independent guidelines to determine
whether neon- lights should be approved prior to use. Although the
Department has the discretion to approve such devices, without standards
to follow, the Department would be required to examine each individual
device to determine if it should be used and the manner in which
it should be installed. Thus, I recommend against any independent
review by the Department of neon lighting devices prior to sale
or installation. Although the Departm
ent is required by sections 316.216(2) and 316.241 to approve certain
lighting devices, these devices must be required for use on motor
vehicles by chapter 316. Neon lights are not required for use on
motor vehicles by any provision of chapter 316. Also, section 316.241
provides that headlamps, auxiliary or fog lamps, rear lamps, signal
lamps and reflectors are required to be approved by the Department
prior to sale. Due to the express mention in the statute of these
lighting devices, which require approval prior to sale, the statute
should be construed to exclude from approval those devices, which
are not mentioned, such as neon lights. In conclusion, the installation
of neon lights to the undercarriage of a vehicle is not necessarily
a violation of Florida law. The Department is not required to approve
neon lights prior to sale or installation or to establish regulations
for installation, adjustment, and aiming. However, the display of
red, blue, or amber lights may be a vi
olation of section 316.2397.
For your information, all of Florida's laws may be viewed at the
following link.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...EChapter%20316
Sincerely,
Office of Public Affairs
Florida Highway Patrol
(850) 410-0999
fax (850) 921-4476
www.fhp.state.fl.us
This is the laws concerning Florida!
DATE: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:22:56
From: "FHP" <FHP@hsmv.state.fl.us>
The following is a copy of a legal opinion from our Office of General
Counsel regarding the issue of neon lights on vehicles and asks
the following question; does Florida law prohibit neon lights, which
are installed underneath motor vehicles?
Unless the vehicle displays a blue or amber light which is prohibited
by section 316.2397, F.S., or a red light visible from the front
which is prohibited by the same statute, neon lights mounted on
the undercarriage of a vehicle are not prohibited by Florida law.
Your inquiry concerns the legality of neon lights, which are installed
underneath a motor vehicle. This legal opinion does not address
lights which are mounted on the front, sides, or rear of the vehicle,
which would be subject to specific sections of chapter 316, F.S.;
see, for example, sections 316.220, 316.221, and 316.224. Also,
it should be noted that the neon lights do not flash. If these
lights were flashing, they would be prohibited by section 316.2397(6).
No statute expressly prohibits installing lights underneath a motor
vehicle. However, the display of a blue light by any vehicle other
than a police vehicle is prohibited by section 316.2397(2). Also,
no vehicle is authorized to display a red light, which is visible
from the front, unless the vehicle meets the exceptions delineated
in section 316.3297(3), such as fire department vehicles. Only certain
vehicles noted in section 316.2397, including road service vehicles
in operation, vehicles, which escort over-dimens
ioned (wide-load) equipment, material or buildings, and wreckers,
may display further, amber lights. For a complete list of authorized
vehicles, which may display red, blue, or amber lights, please refer
to section 316.2397. Thus, if a blue or amber light were visible
from a vehicle, which does not meet one of the exceptions provided
by law, the display of such light would be prohibited by section
316.2397. Similarly, if a vehicle displays a red light, which is
visible from the front, a violation of the same statute is committed.
The fact that the light is mounted underneath the vehicle is not
a stated defense or exception recognized by section 316.2397. The
Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles classify this offense
as a nonmoving infraction for which no points are assessed. It
should be pointed out that sections 316.216 or 316.24 do not require the Department.
To approve the neon lights prior to installation underneath a vehicle.
Section 316.216, authorizes the Department to approve or disapprove
lighting devices and to issue and enforce regulations concerning
installation, adjustment, and aiming of these devices. The regulations
shall be consistent with standards and specifications of the society
of automotive engineers that are applicable to such equipment. No
such standards have been promulgated by the society of automotive
engineers and the Department has no independent guidelines to determine
whether neon- lights should be approved prior to use. Although the
Department has the discretion to approve such devices, without standards
to follow, the Department would be required to examine each individual
device to determine if it should be used and the manner in which
it should be installed. Thus, I recommend against any independent
review by the Department of neon lighting devices prior to sale
or installation. Although the Departm
ent is required by sections 316.216(2) and 316.241 to approve certain
lighting devices, these devices must be required for use on motor
vehicles by chapter 316. Neon lights are not required for use on
motor vehicles by any provision of chapter 316. Also, section 316.241
provides that headlamps, auxiliary or fog lamps, rear lamps, signal
lamps and reflectors are required to be approved by the Department
prior to sale. Due to the express mention in the statute of these
lighting devices, which require approval prior to sale, the statute
should be construed to exclude from approval those devices, which
are not mentioned, such as neon lights. In conclusion, the installation
of neon lights to the undercarriage of a vehicle is not necessarily
a violation of Florida law. The Department is not required to approve
neon lights prior to sale or installation or to establish regulations
for installation, adjustment, and aiming. However, the display of
red, blue, or amber lights may be a vi
olation of section 316.2397.
For your information, all of Florida's laws may be viewed at the
following link.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...EChapter%20316
Sincerely,
Office of Public Affairs
Florida Highway Patrol
(850) 410-0999
fax (850) 921-4476
www.fhp.state.fl.us

