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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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Angry Occasionally, my HVAC system GROWLS AT ME.

Or, at least I think it's the HVAC. The loud growl goes away whenever I turn the heater/aircon off.

The sound definitely seems to be coming from the passenger side of the car, perhaps underneath the dashboard. I found a mouse nest under there back in '11 right after I first got the car, so maybe something that was nibbled has gotten worse over the years?

I first noticed this growling sound this winter, but then it went away for a long time. Lately, it's been happening whenever I brake fairly hard and then it won't go away until I turn off the HVAC.

It's almost like a fan is unbalanced, something is grinding up against something else, or...who knows.

The dealership wants a bunch of money just to run diagnostics on it, so no, taking it to the dealer isn't an option right now. I've got a road trip across the country coming up next month and my A/C needs to work. Is this something I can rip apart and figure out myself?

I have zero idea what it could be, aside from narrowing it down to something HVAC-related. The dealer's service department mentioned that a bearing might be bad. It sort of sounds like something's rubbing against something else, or maybe a fan's whacking into something. Who knows. It's pretty worrisome, either way.
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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It's a quick & simple diagnosis - If you think it's A/C fan related >
1. Open your glovebox and disconnect the damper/shock and you should be able to see the fan unit.
2. There's a cabin filter latch, release it and remove cabin filter.


You should now be able to see the "squirrel" fan, use a flashlight and inspect the blades, make sure everything is legit and nothing is clogged or damaged.

NOTE: Be careful NOT to turn on your A/C when your hands (or anything else is in there) or when you're staring into the blower!

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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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This is the sound, FWIW:

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Thanks for the disassembly instructions! I'll tear into it soon and see what I find.
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Sounds like your A/C fan blades are scratching up against something...
Perhaps the filter element itself have caved in (due to age or defect?)
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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i get the exact same damn thing. it bothers me alot. Im thinking of taking mine to the dealership before my warranty runs out .
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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i get the exact same damn thing. it bothers me alot. Im thinking of taking mine to the dealership before my warranty runs out .
Well, it's definitely not normal.
It could be the Texas heat, but it really does sound like blower grinding on/against something.

If you do take it up to the dealer, please let us know what they find out.
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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Sounds like the blower motor hitting something. Pull the glove box and filter as said before and check it out. It takes 2 mins to pull apart.
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Old Jul 18, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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Next, pull the motor. It is easy. Inspect and look for debris and evidence of rubbing on the fan case.
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Old Jul 19, 2014 | 07:30 AM
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All right, I couldn't stand it anymore, so I took the filter out and shook all the crap out. Takes less time than a morning poo break, so why not?

The closest thing I could find in there to a potential troublemaker was a blade of grass that was wedged along the outside. I don't know how it could be touching the fan itself since the round entry to the fan is inset a little way from that, but who knows. Maybe this is why it's only an issue sometimes and not all the time.

If that wasn't the issue, I may look into popping the fan itself out and giving it a good shake. Anywhere else to look that may be the source of the issue?

I stuck my hand down in the fan, manually spun it, and it didn't make any noises or have any resistance then. I didn't see any damaged blades, either. Weird.
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Alright...
The next possibilities:
1. Could be the blower motor itself (Not the fan blades), motor/bearing failure? or, it would be loose in the housing.

2. The vent-motor/vane that controls the air circulation (the unit that directs the air flow up/down/windshield) may have failed, leading to it vibrating in the central vent tube. Rare, but possible.

3. Someone punked you > By shoving some scraps of paper into your air vents and now it's just flapping around in there when you have the A/C on...
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 07:06 AM
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I think it's the air circulation flap. We isolated that was where the noise was coming from, plus it's seemed kind of weak whenever I switch it from up to down sometimes.

I still have a noise. Replaced it with a brand new filter, still has a noise. At least I have a thing for the dealer to check when I take it in for a bunch of other crap today.
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