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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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There is a kick-*** 1995 RHD JDM Supra for a decent price at www.evolutionimports.com along with many other JDM RHD and LHD cars. Its worth checking out!!
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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I used to own a 97 Supra. Sold it for the Evo. Why?

1) Be prepared to NEVER drive in bad weather. The car is downright dangerous in the rain. The back end will whip out on you so fast that you won't even know what happened. Winter is also off limits.

2) Parts are INSANELY expensive and hard to find. Maintence is just as bad on an Evo - plus you're talking a car that is 10 - 7 years old. Tires are twice as bad as on an Evo because you're looking at a staggered setup so you can't rotate. Expect to pay ~800 dollars every six months on rear tires. And mine were the stock 245s. I can only imagine what two 295/35/18s will cost you.

3) Yes, the engine is bulletproof. But nothing else is. Clutches are weak, especially. You WILL break something, I promise you. And when you do, it's going to cost you. Especially if you're talking upgraded single turbo. All the supras you see with 600-800hp have at least 20-30k put into them.

4) Headlights fog up (especially driver's side), the targa will leak, the leather of the seats is cheap.

BUT - they are nice cars, no doubt, and they get a lot of attention. Every car has their plus and minuses. Supras are japanese sports cars, and they require a sports car salary. If I were you, I would invest in something new. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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both are great cars... eitherway you cant go wrong.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
You forgot the most sacred form of motorsport in the Supra community.....dyno racing.
LOL.. very true....

having that said..... saad saad just laid down something like 1450rwhp.... ouch!
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
It really depends on how you tune it. You could make supra handle just as well or even better, if that's the route you're going for it.

See what happens is that supra owners go for the drag setup and overpower the turns. But if you do the suspension setup that could equal out the power of the Supra, then you'll be alright.

Remember, RWD handles better than AWD. AWD handles better than FWD.

You just have to know how to drive each platform.
RWD handles better than AWD? What have you been smoking? My first car was a 1969 Chevelle. Had plenty of power, but handling sucks. Floor that car out of a turn, and the rear would swing out like crazy. Not to mention if you take a turn to fast, it would arc out of a turn. My Evo sticks to the ground like glue. Floor it out of a turn, and it's okay.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
it started whining like a jet plane after about 6000 miles. The car had never been to a track before it happend.

HOW are you driving the car? With the power you have, and if you are doing continual 6000rpm launches, you will kill stuff. I cannot reiterate strongly enough that these cars were not made for drag racing, and that if you want to make a drag car out of an evo, you will either continually be replacing expensive parts, or putting in parts that will not fail as often, which will still be expensive. As an example of utility of use, there are several evo owners that track their cars regularly (circuit, not drag), drive fast and hard, and are not breaking transfer cases, and in fact are still on the stock clutch. so, I question driver use. Not putting you down, and you may be a great drag racer, but you are going to pay for the type of use you are subjecting your Evo, or any car you will own, to.

Percy
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragonfly5338
I used to own a 97 Supra. Sold it for the Evo. Why?

1) Be prepared to NEVER drive in bad weather. The car is downright dangerous in the rain. The back end will whip out on you so fast that you won't even know what happened. Winter is also off limits.

2) Parts are INSANELY expensive and hard to find. Maintence is just as bad on an Evo - plus you're talking a car that is 10 - 7 years old. Tires are twice as bad as on an Evo because you're looking at a staggered setup so you can't rotate. Expect to pay ~800 dollars every six months on rear tires. And mine were the stock 245s. I can only imagine what two 295/35/18s will cost you.

3) Yes, the engine is bulletproof. But nothing else is. Clutches are weak, especially. You WILL break something, I promise you. And when you do, it's going to cost you. Especially if you're talking upgraded single turbo. All the supras you see with 600-800hp have at least 20-30k put into them.

4) Headlights fog up (especially driver's side), the targa will leak, the leather of the seats is cheap.

BUT - they are nice cars, no doubt, and they get a lot of attention. Every car has their plus and minuses. Supras are japanese sports cars, and they require a sports car salary. If I were you, I would invest in something new. Just my 2 cents.
The first statement proves my point, AWD handles better than RWD. I remember years back there was a track event I was watching on T.V. There were Talons, Mustangs and Camaros racing on a course that had plenty of turns. Everytime a turn came up, the Mustangs and Camaros would slow down, where the Talons would slingshot and leave them.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Are you sure you mean rack and pinion? I've know what a rack and pinion are, and in the context of a transfer case it doesn't make sense. Maybe you mean crown wheel & pinion?

-n.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hagakure
HOW are you driving the car? With the power you have, and if you are doing continual 6000rpm launches, you will kill stuff. I cannot reiterate strongly enough that these cars were not made for drag racing, and that if you want to make a drag car out of an evo, you will either continually be replacing expensive parts, or putting in parts that will not fail as often, which will still be expensive. As an example of utility of use, there are several evo owners that track their cars regularly (circuit, not drag), drive fast and hard, and are not breaking transfer cases, and in fact are still on the stock clutch. so, I question driver use. Not putting you down, and you may be a great drag racer, but you are going to pay for the type of use you are subjecting your Evo, or any car you will own, to.

Percy
i honestly dont' know how many times i have said this during this thread...but when my TC went...the car had NEVER been drag raced and had also NEVER been launched. Ever. I baby the hell out of my car. This had nothing to do with the driver unless driving the car very conservatively is a bad thing. Since i've gotten my 2nd TC...i have gone to the track twice and launched the car a total of 7 times.
but when the car is not at the track it is in my garage 6 days a week and driven very calm on the street...

and to top it off....i suck at drag racing ....i can't launch the car for sh_t...out of 7 runs, i probably only got 3 good launches out of it.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nsnguyen
Are you sure you mean rack and pinion? I've know what a rack and pinion are, and in the context of a transfer case it doesn't make sense. Maybe you mean crown wheel & pinion?

-n.

i'm using those words from Keith@turbotrix...that is what he told me
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
RWD handles better than AWD? What have you been smoking? My first car was a 1969 Chevelle. Had plenty of power, but handling sucks. Floor that car out of a turn, and the rear would swing out like crazy. Not to mention if you take a turn to fast, it would arc out of a turn. My Evo sticks to the ground like glue. Floor it out of a turn, and it's okay.
Not to sound like a dick but maybe your 1969 chevelle handled like crap because it was a 1969 chevelle. My 69' corvette stingray handles like **** because its a muscle car from 1969 not because its RWD.

Anyway, i say go for the Supra

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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Not to sound like a dick but maybe your 1969 chevelle handled like crap because it was a 1969 chevelle. My 69' corvette stingray handles like **** because its a muscle car from 1969 not because its RWD.
True...okay even if it was a Dodge Viper, or Mustang, the rear will still swing out like crazy. I have seen Mustangs do lane changes at WOT, not a pretty site. Why do you think they don't use RWD in rallies? I feel safer in AWD, easier to control.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
True...okay even if it was a Dodge Viper, or Mustang, the rear will still swing out like crazy. I have seen Mustangs do lane changes at WOT, not a pretty site. Why do you think they don't use RWD in rallies? I feel safer in AWD, easier to control.
I'd have to agree with you on that one. Of all the cars ive driven i like the evo handling the best because the AWD feels like the rear wheels are pushing me through the turn while the front wheels are pulling the car in the right direction, if that makes sense to anyone
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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I know how you feel. Man I wish nothing ever went wrong with any car. In your situation I would look at my funds to see if it's worth keeping the evo. I know I would rather own the evo than the supra.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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ill to keep the evo for the reason its already fix and you will have problems with the sup. as well. that my 2 cents.
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