Jasil, you undercover troll, you simply annoy me. I'm not sure if he spent $100,000 on his EVO or not, but hey if you have the money, why not. He probably wanted an EVO that not only performaned at the track and the streets, but also is very reliable. Only the best parts where probably used for his awesome EVO. I would love to see it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he had one of the best built EVOs in the WORLD!!!! Still Jasil, to simply assume that it takes $100,000 to get an EVO in the 10s (forget dyno queens, time slips do the talking here biatch!!!) is absolutely stupid, and maybe instead of spending your time on this website b*tching and trolling, maybe try and do a little research my simple minded friend. David Buschur is currently in the process of building a 10 second street and strip EVO and he provided a perfect example of what it takes, and honestly it's not as difficult or expensive as you may think-

Buschur Racing Stage 4, minus the standard 680 cc injectors and the AFC, $3145.
AEM EMS, $2400
1650 cc injectors, $850
Fuel cell like pictured in this topic earlier, $1,000.
Exedy Triple disc clutch, $3,000.
With the GT40R and the custom work would be closer to $4500.
Stage 3, 2.0 liter shortblock, $3,000
Stage 3, cylinder head, $1650
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Total price- $19,545 (including price of the EVO ($30,500)- $50,045)

With these mods I assure you, you are looking at a 10 Second 550WHP+ EVO street driven EVO. He could have even done it cheaper, some could argue that the GT40R is overkill and a cheaper GT35R could also do the duty. Nobody said that getting an EVO into the 10s was cheap (especially with no Nitrous involved) but it's not as expensive as you think, and if you think it's cheap to get other cars into the 10s, your wrong. Other cars with big V8s or V10s may be alittle cheaper, but that doesn't mean CHEAP. Even getting a 2003/2004 Cobra to run 10s, would mean a considerable investiment. You see don't let the ease of getting into the 11s fool you. Going from 12s to 11s is a hell of a lot easier than going from 11s to 10s, this is the case for ALL cars. Once again the Buschur car provides an example. To get the EVO into the 11s and I mean deep in the 11s, they would only need the Buschur Racing Stage 4, minus the standard 680 cc injectors and the AFC $3145, AEM EMS $2400, and 1650 cc injectors $850 (EVOs can hit 11s much cheaper). So to get to the 11s cost Bushur $6,395, but to run 10s will cost them an additional $13,150.

 

I mean this is my last spill on the EVO, cuz I have gots to go. But man, look at the EVO it's simply an amazing car. I mean Jasil annoys me with his stupid comments of much more potential in other cars. Jasil you fool, can't you see what the EVO is, it's a tuners dream! I mean it's so useful and has so much potential it's just simply amazing! There are so many different routes you can take in seriously modifying the EVO, how can a tuner ever get bored. I mean it is possible for a person to own four 10 second EVOs that have four vastily different set ups. I mean, if you want to build a street monster, you can, and the paths or routes to accomplish this are plentiful. Get tired of the street racing and drag scene, try building a time attack EVO, which is vastily different in it's set up than a drag EVO. I mean the car seriously should never get boring, it's an engineering masterpiece. I mean people so often forget, that we ask SO much from a 2 liter turbo 4 cylinder, and the 4G63 continues to provide.

 

3000Ways, are you just insecure because I know more about DSM's than you? Or that my last 92' FP 3065 powered talon was faster than your EVO? Or is it that I've been driving, racing, and modding these cars since before you were driving?

Where did I say it costs 100K to run 10's? I didn't I said Big3ETR is nut's for spending 100K on a EVO...his words not mine. I know what it takes to run 10's in a 4g63 platform it's not rocket science.

Did you figure out what MDSOG was yet? I'm sure that was before you had a driver's license in fact if you find a old MDSOG newsletter you will see my name on it 1313@102 which was the 17th fastest time in the nation at that time.

The comment about V-8's and there not that easy to get in the 10's comment. Again your showing your youth making that statement. How many sites do you want me to show you? Go to Modularfords.com and there are over 10 03/04 cobras running 11.00 or faster with 2k-6k in them. Ls1tech.com and look at all the 10 second Ls1's. Go to Corvetteforum.com, Z06vette.com, Turbomustangs.com, Corral.net, Viperalley.com, etc etc.

The bad boys are the Ls1's though. I have 2 friends with WS-6's and both run 10.5's-10.90's with less than 5K in each one it's a easy recipe for the LS1: Auto, stall, Juice, cuout, filter, Ported stock head, and TR224 cam, ET streets.

It doesn't matter though because the EVO has things that those cars don't. It's different which appeals to people who want to express themselves differently, AWD, better braking, better handling, more tossable. Granted this is all taking a relatively stock EVO vs a stock Ls1 or Cobra. Modded Ls1's do quite well on the roadcourse, but for Autox the EVO can and will crush both of them. The only real problem with the EVO in a drag application is the drivetrain. You can upgrade diffs, get a TRE trans, spiders etc, but you cannot bulletproof it. Look at how many drivetrains Extreme, Buschur, AMS, Sean Ivey, Curt Brown, John Shephard, Greg Andriotiis, Wess Hess, have gone through. That's the only real crappy part.

I love EVO's, but they are not cheaper to make go fast than V-8's. I would take a highly modded EVO over a modded Cobra/ Ls1 anyday of the week.

Have a good day 3000ways.

 

300ways about your it's only 2 liter comment...I'll agree it is only a 2 liter, but at some point us Import guys, and I do consider myself a import guy even though I've owned Cobras, 5.0's, C4, have to be straight up.

Like my Chevy buds at work say you can't win when you race a import if you win they say "You have a V-8 I have a little 4cyl" and they'll add "I think I hung pretty well considering you have 3x the displacement" and if you lose to a import they'll say "You got spanked by a little 4 cylinder."

That just happened with one of the 10 sec WS-6's at work. He runs 11.60's on motor and 10.90's on spray he race another co worker with a 240sx SR20 swap with built motor, front mount, GT30 turbo, 880cc inj, 3'' TBE, welded diff, on slicks vs the WS-6's street tires and won by 1.5 cars let's just say he won't shut up about spanking Chuck's WS-6. Even though if Chuck would have sprayed he would have spanked the 240sx.

I love EVO's and love watching Chris's spank Cobra's just be real about there ultimate performance.

 

Are you sure about that, could of fooled me

 

The comment about go here and there for proof (making me do all the work) again show your inability to prove sh*t. Seeing a list of the hundreds of hundreds of LS1s running really fast doesn't really prove your point POPs, just proves that the LS1 is a great platform to work with and has been around for a long time. So what does that have to do with my point that it's not as easy as you make it out to be. Your comments make it sound like you don't know much about tuning, and if you claim to know a lot about it, then you really fooled me. Oh by the way since it's so easy, what kind of 10 Second LS1 or Mustang Cobra do you drive? You do drive a 10 Second LS1 or Mustang Cobra right? Ooooh my bad, all your buddies do, doh what am I thinking.

 

while everyone is talking **** what was turbo trix best time it was pretty damn low and you can see the video on www.turbotrix.com i dont think they spent a $100,000 on there evo.

 

yeah he is nuts for spending that much on a evo he got royally f***** in the a** on that deal.

 

Jasil- I apologize for my attitude towards you. I at first thought you were a troll, but now I am starting to think otherwise. In no way am I calling domestic platforms such as LS1s and Mustangs crap, I'm just saying be more realistic in you views. I mean if you don't think these are considerable investiments in go fast parts, then I don't know what is-

Home Ported MAF, !Filter, Custom PCM, ET Drags, Custom Exhaust, Roll Cage, MTI Stage 2 Heads, C2 Hammer Cam, Pullies, FLP Headers, 4400 Yank Pro Convertor, ORP, PHB, LCAs, EGR Mod, TB Mod, LS6 Intake Manifold, SFCs, !Front Sway bar, Coolant Bypass, FRA

or

Carbon Fiber Lid, SLP 85mm MAF, !Air Filter, Custom PCM, ET Drags, Gemini Twin 250 Shot NX Express Wet Kit, Custom 5” Oval exhaust, Tbyrne Roll Cage, LS6 Custom Modified Heads, Custom Grind Cam, Pullies, Headers, 3800 Yank Stall Convertor, BMR PHB/LCAs/SFCs, Hotchkis STB, ALP High Flow Radiator, Urethane bushings, !FSB, Custom sheet metal (LS Spyder) Intake Manifold, Coolant bypass, BG Ram Air, HAL Springs/Shocks, Strange 12 Bolt, Jesel Shaft Rocker system, 1” valve cover spacers Hurst Quarter Stick Shifter

or

K&N, TTS PCM, ET Streets, Vortech SC, Borla, TTS LT Headers, Vig 3000 Stall, TransGo Shift Kit, DMR PHB, LCA, LCA brackets, SFC, Ls6 Intake, 427 Stroker, Hal Springs, Shocks

or

Direct Flo Lid, K&N Filter, Custom PCM, ET Streets, ATI Pro-Charger, Borla Catback, Roll cage, Heads, Cam, Headers, Y-Pipe, ORP, 4000 Stall Convertor, Shift Kit, PHB, LCAs

(Mod List of 10 Second Cars taken from LS1.com)

(MTI Stage 2 Heads range in price of $1,600 to $2,700 alone, just an example)

 

I hear ya 3000 ways and I love EVO's I can't stress that enough. All of my friends that have sports cars drive domestics except 2 and they drive Honda Civic hatchbacks with GSR swaps and turbos.

I know first hand how much I spent on my dsm's over the years and the times I ran best of 11.36@125. I broke 2 TC's, 2 rear diffs, the passenger rear axle and finally had to hang it up. When my friend bought a WS-6 in 2000 and added a catback, stall, filter, 150 TNT wet shot he ran 11.3@123mph I was pissed. He had under 2500K in the car. I had spent over 2500 on my FP Red, mani, external WG alone. Not too mention for him to run that time he just lowered the tire pressure on the DR's and went to the track. While I had too hope and pray that something didn't break when I went to the track.

In the end though it's now 2005 and still nothing stirs my soul more than a high hp 4 cylinder. The EVO is one of the few cars where you can have the best of both worlds and to me that is why it is so appealing. AMS's car is a great example ran One lap and came in 7th and swapped in a GT42 and ran a 10.11@141mph....it will be faster soon.

All around it is very hard to beat it costs more money to mod and isn't as friendly at the Dragstrip, but it truly is a all around performer and not a 1 dimensional beast.

Trust me I bleed 4g63 blood have a good day 3000ways.

 

oh ya well my evo makes 6 million horsepower! Ha..

 

...dynooooooooo? :d

 

Yeah Big is from Cleveland.

 

No clue?

 

I think you're clearly missing the point if you think I'm spending 100K to run 10's. The point of this project is not to run 10's. It is to build the world's fastest truly streetable EVO. It will be a 200 mph+ car. I'm not sure I know of any 10 second EVOs that can make that claim.