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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Shelby GT500 does not have the ford GT engine, but does share the same cylinder heads. AND the Challenger will be offered with an optional 500 HP from the factory according to last month's C&D or Motortrend pumping through a new v8 (not the viper motor). Just straightening out some facts.
Sign me up for the Challenger!!!!
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Even though the Mustang has been underpowered (except for the supercharged Cobra) over the years vs. the competition (Z28), they still outsold the bowtie brand 4:1 over the last generation. And that my friends, is all the accountants and execs at Ford care about. Besides, the Sheby GT500 should have enough ponies to put the new kids on the block in their place.
True...but the Shelby is more in competition with the ZO6. The Mustang GT is what will be against the Challenger and Camaro.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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Actually I read yesterday that the GT500 does have the GT40's engine. Scary huh?
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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"Even though SVT's leash is tighter, the new GT500 is a credible step beyond the last Mustang Cobra (2003-04). That 390-hp snake had a 4.6-liter four-cam V-8 at the core, whereas the new Shelby edition moves to the 5.4-liter block that powers the Ford GT and various large trucks. Mixing and matching parts, the GT500's powerplant gets the Eaton Lysholm screw-type supercharger, air-to-water intercooler, and four-valve DOHC heads from the Ford GT mated to the iron block found in the workaday trucks. As the result of a stroke that's 17 percent larger than the bore, this engine will be a growler, not a screamer; the redline on the show car's tach is stuck at the standard Mustang's 6000 rpm."

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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OZLancer
"Even though SVT's leash is tighter, the new GT500 is a credible step beyond the last Mustang Cobra (2003-04). That 390-hp snake had a 4.6-liter four-cam V-8 at the core, whereas the new Shelby edition moves to the 5.4-liter block that powers the Ford GT and various large trucks. Mixing and matching parts, the GT500's powerplant gets the Eaton Lysholm screw-type supercharger, air-to-water intercooler, and four-valve DOHC heads from the Ford GT mated to the iron block found in the workaday trucks. As the result of a stroke that's 17 percent larger than the bore, this engine will be a growler, not a screamer; the redline on the show car's tach is stuck at the standard Mustang's 6000 rpm."

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Thank You ^^^ That information is correct. NO it does not share the same FORD GT engine, just the cylinder heads.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Under the hood of the 2007 Shelby GT500 there’s a supercharged 32-valve 5.4L V-8 that shares some of its technology with the Ford GT supercar.

Copy and pasted straight off of Ford's website. Prove to them it's still the Ford GT engine .
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Another one copy and pasted straight from Ford. NOTE: FORD GT ALUM. HEADS!!

5.4-liter, DOHC, 32-valve, 90-degree V-8
475 horsepower, 475 lb.-ft. of torque (estimated)
Roots-type Eaton supercharger and air-to-water intercooler
Iron block, Ford GT aluminum heads, dual exhaust
Tremec TR6060 6-speed manual transmission
Rear-wheel drive, 3.31:1 axle ratio; Traction Control
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Yeah I guess it does make sense they'd use a wholly less expensive, mass produced iron block in place of the incredibly expensive aluminum block! So they have the iron block, probably less expensive pistons/rods, maybe the same crank, same and or similar supercharger and the GT40 heads....semantics, sure it's not the same engine in a GT40 but.... Automobile magazine had a brief blurb on it, stating it used the GT40's engine in an article about the vaporware (for the moment) new Camaro which is why I even mentioned it

And despite the Shelby's price, it's not a direct competitor to a Z06. Completely different demographics, vehicle layout, etc....I also have to believe that when the time comes, the GT will get an SVT edition somewhere between the current GT and the Shelby (duh!) and probably a slight bump on the last gen Cobra.

With that said and after looking at the spread on the new Camaro in Automobile Magazine, I might actually own one of those if they kept it like the concept. I'm sure GM will manage to screw it up however and I'm sure there will be a whole slew of must have vehicles out by 2008 including the EvoX! I'd never swap out an Evo for any ponycar (did the Mustang thing way back when) though.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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GT500 - Cast Iron 5.4L w/Ford GT Crank and 8.4:1 compression, Wet Sump
Ford GT - Hand Assembled Aluminum/Sleeved 5.4L and 8.4:1 compression, Dry Sump

All of the 5.4L blocks including the Triton Truck engines share the same basic design, this is Ford's new modular block design. The V10 is essentially the same block with 2 extra cylinders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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for all you riceroni's bring your ching chong out to philly and i will smoke all of you. my muscles are a hell of a lot bigger than yours

i have yet to lose..........................losers
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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uuuhhh ok. Whatever. Come out to Florida and I'll race you around Sebring International Raceway. I'll use my mostly stock Evo or....if you're feeling randy, my prepped street-legal, full interior third gen RX7. 500rwhp and 2600lbs with full road race setup. We can race for title. Ah, never mind...you're probably like 10 years old or something....or 30 with the education of a 10 year old....
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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hate to tell you but 500rwhp still isn't up to par with this car, its like all your evos, looks stock on the outside, under the hood theres a lot more going on. RX-7's are a very nice car, and i would love to see that race, but no evo i've ever raced has kept with me.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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You're missing the point. I can build a tractor that goes fast in a straight line. What's up to par? I have no doubt I could probably smack your Cobra around Sebring to the tune of 10-15 seconds a lap. So I'd have to say that your car isn't up to par with mine. I'm willing to bet a mostly stock Evo could beat your Cobra round the same course. Why waste everyone's time being a troll? Did you even bother to read what the thread was about or did you just jump to conclusions based on the title? Reading comprehension can be your friend too.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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And if straight line racing is your thing, try Chris and his AMS-built Evo. 900+awhp. How bout them apples?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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i was just referring to a straight track, mustangs aren't good at all around turns, i know that, and yes that ams-built evo will kill the cobra, but then again i don't have that kind of money to throw around, the celica i posted up in this forum could beat a mustang around a small track, have you ever taken your rx-7 to a drag strip to see what it could do and if so, what was the time?
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