lets put 4g63 motors into smaller lighter cars..so we can all join the special olympics with the k, f, and b series. and i always thought the CR-V was a B20, not a K series. lol, or it could be the earlier models..probably not. also forgot about the H22s and the H23s.

 

the NSX-R motor is best
or the CBR1000RR

 

yeah, it's a shame, we don't drive a car with the most efficient engine. It's too bad Honda can't make a lightweight rear- or all-wheel drive vehicle with more utility than the S.

Rear wheel drive is fun and all, but after driving all wheel drive, I'll never go back to FWD...what a pain in the ***. Yeah, you can try to mod around it or drive carefully until you build up speed, but why? It's nice to have traction, yeah?

 

You obviously don't understand me (or understand how a FWD car works). Someone can make a turbo the size of a car capable of producing a batrillion horsepower (kidding). Try to get traction - you can't. Yes, the Full-Race kits go to an incredible amount of horsies, but you can't put it to the ground. My brother can't put that much power without dire consequences.

 

^^ Amen to that statement. Like I said before ... the acquaintance I met with this B18C5 supercharged had the widest power band I've ever seen in a Hondroid. For about 20% less total horsepower he absolutely smoked my, at the time, stockish EVO.
Peak horsepower to me is but a booger on the chart. Its just a number. What means a lot to me now are dyno graphs and more especially the torque curve related to that dyno graph.
The sooner the world starts to worry less about boogers on charts and more on "area under a curve" probably the better the cars will become relative to power output anyways.
Love,
~j.

 

FWD=bad traction.

 

IIRC one of the full race 7-800hp civics ran like 12.0 @140mphs. tractions a ***** lol.

 

K series.

 

K-Series all the way but I'm a RSX-S owner so I'm a little biased.

 

yeah, i hate that all the ricers rolling around in single-slammer engined honda's ruin their rep to alot of people, their engines are truly awesome and extremely efficient.
on a B16 engine i had, i just added forged pistons, and ran 19psi with a custom tubo kit and everything else stock except injectors and an AFC and put 419whp down on 93. then i built a solid deck dart block with a 2.3L stroker(still with stock head and cams though)and a power FC and put down 529whp/396wtq. pretty good for a stock head and cams. that's how efficient their heads are from the factory! the truely impressive point of honda motors, being a K, F, or B-series is the heads flow like mad from the factory. i mean, my friends with 5.0's could never crack 500 whp with stock heads and cams, no matter how much boost they'd throw at it. just didn't flow enough.

i'm partial to B-series though, since they have a ton of aftermarket support at good prices and they're much easier to work on than the K-series. B16A or B and B18C5 are the best though as the heads for all these are made from the same casting(type R), but the B18C5(type R integra) and B16B(type R civic) have hand ported heads stock. the GSR engine(B18C)is slightly less efficient due to port shape and the combustion chamber shape also. a GSR(B18C) block with an Si(B16) head is a good combo. that's another great thing about honda motors, damn near all B-series parts are all interchangeable from heads to cams to blocks(same with K-series)so you can piec together the best combo from factory parts.

 

i'm partial to B-series though, since they have a ton of aftermarket support at good prices and they're much easier to work on than the K-series. B16A or B and B18C5 are the best though as the heads for all these are made from the same casting(type R), but the B18C5(type R integra) and B16B(type R civic) have hand ported heads stock. the GSR engine(B18C)is slightly less efficient due to port shape and the combustion chamber shape also. a GSR(B18C) block with an Si(B16) head is a good combo. that's another great thing about honda motors, damn near all B-series parts are all interchangeable from heads to cams to blocks(same with K-series)so you can piec together the best combo from factory parts.[/QUOTE]

i am the same way, the B-series has a LOT of aftermarket support. the b-series engines are a budget friendly swap and if you have more $ go with a K-series.
me personaly for the b-series i'd go with a B18C5 or a LS-vtec B18B with B16 head, for the k-series a K20A or a K24 block with K20A head. both could be used for road racing, drag racing you name it.

 

Whats the fastest awd car running in the 1/4 mile? Whats the fastest fwd car running again? I guess all of the fwd cars running single digits must jsut be a figment of my imagination.

Full race ran a ****ty time with a huge trap speed on street tires. They are a local shop, and people here have seen them run on drag radials and slicks. Trust me traction isint that much of an issue

 

I wasn't doubting full race, they do great work.

 

My vote would the H2B conversion by Evolution Industries. It consist of a B-Series gearbox and a H-Series powerplant. There is an article about it in D Sport magazine. It's featured in issue May 2007 in page 42.

 

Need more info, Any link to it? Thanks