Then why are you in a thread about a new car? Just to **** all over everyone who realizes it's a 997TT for half the price and are excited? Go drive your 240 and have fun elsewhere.

 

1. if you custom build one thing of course it is going to be better than something mass produced. you can pick parts that cost a lot and are top of the line if your building YOUR car but a business like nissan who makes a ton of cars per year they dont have that luxury or else all their cars will be in the 6 figures.

2. the general public doesnt want to build their own high performance machine like you. you make up a very very little part of the population. not everyone has the time or the know how to do it.

so dropping 68000 for a brand new high performance machine that can beat a lot of the other cars out there is not that big of a deal when you have to think about building a car.

so having a brand new car you can jump into and drive away immediately > than having to wait for parts to come in and putting in the wrench time

 

also the GT-R has alot of R&D into its handling and all the electronics that help it handle better so in short if you want to make a car that handles better then the GT-R you would have to devote Alot of cash and time into Research and development of the suspension and the dynamics of the car alone and that would cost you more then the GT-R it self so there! lol

yes you can slap a set of coilovers on your 240z but in the end the GT-R will handle better but you cant compare them cause they are in a different class

ps: alt dont make fun of 240's! most of us 240 owners are car enthusiast and love almost all cars i know some dumb *** evo owners but that dosnt make me judge you guys as a whole well maybe the 350z guys LOL

 

I am in this thread because I love the gt-r and really can't wait for it to come out. I just think it's overpriced, and just said that you can build a car for the same amount that could out perform it. It just got out of hand when people kept trying to tell me it wasn't possible. When in fact it is.

Ok enough with this build crap.

What about a used 996tt or c6 zo6? These can be had for 58k if you hunt and 60k all day long. That gives you 10k extra to play with.

I am actually more concerned about the weight, can't wait to see how it performs. I hope it kills the 911. Porsche will be so pissed it won't even be funny.

 

I am guessing the GTR will come in around 3500lbs, and the EVO version will be 3300lbs (just my arbitrary, non-factual guess).

If you do get a 996TT for 60k, you better save some money for maintenance/repairs. I have seen some highly modded Porsches (600hp) going for 70ish. Could care less about any Corvette, even the C6 ZO-6. JMO.

 

Yeah I been thinking about it and if I was in the market for a 996tt or zo6 I think I would just go with the gt-r. It would be more but your getting so much more plus it's new.

 

I would take the reliability of any japanese car over a german/american made vehicle

 

I see where the arguement of the Z06 and Viper VS the GTR....I'd have to say, in going with the skyline heritage, it will take a little bit of effort to make the standard model to keep up with a Z06, in a straightline.

Considering the GTR has been a Godsend handling wise, I would have to lean towards it trouncing the Z06 around a track due to the electronic wizardry. But having speculated this, I have no idea.

If the Evo spec comes in 200 pounds lighter and 50hp UP....

I might just have to look to sell a kidney and take on another job.

If those pictures are 100% accurate, Im relieved. I was worried the look would be too sedate.

 

Wait, didnt everyone see the preliminary guesstimate weights?

Look at this:

http://www.2009gtr.com/

Considering they didnt add much in terms of engine weight (the VQ38VETT should be about the same or less than an RB26...IIRC. Do NOT hold me to that, if anyone knows for sure what a VQ35 weighs, it should be the same)

So I think the weight figure might be bogus...

I dont see how a 5 year hiatus on a car being developed for 10 years could weigh MORE than its predecessor without weighing the same, less or marginally more.

20" wheels? I dont know...worrying me. The 7 speed DSG is supposed to be an upgrade...after hearing the reviews of the Evo X tranny, Im not so worried.

All in all, I think it will be worth every penny, but until it hits, and the aftermarket gets its hands on it,

Considering the power numbers, low 400lb ft of torque from 1700rpm-5k or so, I havent looked at the speculated sheet in a few weeks, I wouldnt doubt the use of variable vane turbos...

Apparently the chassis is designed to handle much more than the 480ps its putting out.

A tune, an exhaust and other knick knacks might realize 600hp in a breeze. If all this IS true, and God blesses us with a 3500-3600lb curb weight, well....its going to be painful having surgery, but the kidney has to go.

 

Just about every car is getting heavier as time goes on.

 

100% true. to many safety standards. Thats why motors are finally going nutts in power

 

it weighs almost 2tons but the electronics used in the drivetrain help it corner well and maintain speed. That's why it's still fast

 

Electronic nannies can help, but at some point it comes down to plain and simple physics.

 

thats right Haskell, I can't see how such a high performance car can be such a heavy car.

People will cite the Veyron as a 4800 pound example, but I will say for certain, even if the Veyron was a 70k car, I would say that its not going to be autocross, drifted or turned into a pure race car.

3900 pounds is too much. 3700 I could live with...throw in a lighter exhaust, some wheels, carbon extras and maybe anothjer 75 to 125 lbs could be shed, brining it into R34 area...but damn....thats a stretch and even an optimist like me can't deny it.

 

if its gona be made into a full race car alot more then 125 lbs could be shed your just gona lose creature comforts but im pretty sure it wont be to hard to get it under 3000lbs in a full race car aplication