Fail double post.

 

Before I had my Evo I had a mild 500Hp Supra, Precision 67Mm turbo, the works. I'd been in the Supra game for almost 5 years and I had loved every minute of it, until the time came to move on. I will always love the supra s and hope to have one again someday.

I love driving my evo, it's a blast to drive every day, regardless of weather, and it's alot more practical than most modified cars Ive had.

But the street presence and raw power ( and power potential )of a Supra is just another type of rush.

Hard to explain, Ride in a 500+ HP supra and report back in haha.

 

You crack me up with your comments... you have no clue what you are talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rqMt-3UQ_I evo vs supra vs rx7 in the rain with pro drivers

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lKvF08Gt8N4 rx7,nsx,gtr, supra +more

 

I suspect if Supras werent "godly" (fiticious term anyway) we wouldnt be having a discussion (5 pages worth) about them. Trust me knobody is over at the Supraforums discussing if the Evo is "godly" People will pay large sums of money for these cars because they have never before built anything with so much potential from the factory. They also hold there value better than most exotics. Unlike my Evo which has lost 1/3 of its resale value since purchased. Lastly it responds to mods like no other trying getting 45WHP from nothing more than a downpipe.

 

i have a friend here in GA whos supra makes about 800 hp..On the highway,it kills most evrything that it rolls against..But,there are also a bunch of them in my area..There is a funny joke about them here,and it goes..What does a 900 hp supra,and a 400 hp supra have in common??13 second time slips..They are beasts no doubt,if you can drive them..Just like any other car in the world..600-1000 hp is great..If you can put it on the pavement..Not by any means talking bad about them..Probably one of my favorite cars besides the r33 gtr..Both of which i'll never own,due to rising costs and the f'ing fast and furious movies..To get back on topic though,if you can drive..The supra is a great platform..But like previously stated,most are dyno queens,or showcars..I refuse to buy a car that i cant DD..And still have fun in,and not have to run 120-160 to have a good time in..Just my 2 cents,to each their own..Justin

 

Supras do have major traction issues on the street. However I do not understand your comment about 13second time slips... On the track with slicks a high hp supra is going to have an equal or better 60' when compared to an awd platform because with awd, power is still going to the front wheels. I would say 90% of the supras I hear about at the track are in the 11s or low 12s. Wide *** slicks on a properly set up supra hooks like crazy.

Again, on the street its a totally different story. AWD has an advantage when talking high hp cars.

 

you got it right sir. It just sounds to me there are lots of people on this thread that know very little about the supras legacy and putting down the king of all jdm sports cars. I dont think the evo is in the same level as a supra. There is no jdm car that can rival the supra besides the skyline gt-r aka "godzilla". Im also making the switch from a ix to mkiv supra tt

 

The supra isn't like OMGZHAHFRAHSHASFH... Granted it has its major benefits but still its over 10 years old... high mileage.... issues with crank walk.... OBDI lean spot issues... traction problems....

You have to look at the total package when comparing cars. To me a low mileage IX, M3, STi, cobra, and s2k are all on the same level in different aspects.
No car is the "king". Put down the F&F dvd....

 

Which are the fastest in Tsukuba time attack? That would be the FD, the R32 and R34 GT-Rs, and Evolutons VII and VIII. The Supra is slower than them at that track. It can be made into a good track machine, but it takes too much effort and money to do that and it would still lag behind the others.

I don't give much credence to Best Motoring. They tend to be biased and there are too many rumors of them faking results to make manufacturers happy.

 

please do not bring up your ignorant excuses like its ten years old or high mileage. If thats the best you can come up with to put a car down then you should just accept the truth.

 

Excuses? Those are valid things to consider.... Every car has advantages and disadvantages...

And I'm not putting the car down... I just bought an MKIV TT. All I'm saying is that it has it's problems just like every other car in the world.

And BTW supra's handle and brake EXTREMELY well bone stock. Do not think they are built for the dragstrip in the least.

 

Well well well ... this is quite the nice debate we have here. Here is what I have to say on the subject:

Firstly the mkiv supra is 15+years old... I was 12 when I first saw one and yeah I wanted one lol

15 years is a bloody long time and people are throwing around terms like "godly" for a Toyota! This thing wasn't even even a super car, average Jo could afford one when they were released. This is a car that cost a little over $45,000 in the US with only about 5000 twin turbo's making it over here (please don't quote me on these figures... they are rough). By my book, any car that is this old and can keep up (thrash in most cases)modern day production cars within it's class is just incredible. 15 years people....15 years....lets take a quick look at the developments in automotive engineering within this time frame...

The Porsche 911 is probably the best car to demonstrate advances in design and technology as it is the longest running model and an excellent example of evolution.

Here is a '94 Carrera


Here is a '09 Carrera


The 911 has come a long way hasn't it? But the Supra stopped production in Japan in 2002... it didn't change much during it's production run did it? Why did't it change? Because it was just too damn good, there was no need to! I think Honda is going through the same experience right now with their modern day classic the S2000.

So why is Supra such a success story? Plain and simple... it's fantastically engineered. The jelly mould body styling might not be to every ones taste but it's certainly recognizable. No one can knock the car itself though. The 2JZ unit is amazing. Did Toyota's engineers really know what potential the engine was capable of? Did they engineer it that strong with hand calculations alone? I'm pretty sure FEA software was no where near what it is today. It's not only it's strength, it's the engines response to modifications, the ease of which you can make good power with basic upgrades and serious power with the right money in the right places. One word to describe Getrag 6speed box could be "bulletproof" this is probably an understatement. The Supra is the ideal car to tune, people recognise this and this is why it is an icon today. Sure the Supra has it's downsides... the car isn't that light at 3210lbs+, therefore there are plenty of cars that handle better(stick some decent coilovers on and you're sorted ), the cars traction control system is garbage... but who cares...no car is perfect and the Supra is no exception. Except it for what it is.

Can anyone name a car that is in production today that the mkiv supra can be compared to? Yeah get your thinking hats on. Honda's NSX and Nissans Skyline were close competitors to the Supra back in the day, but even these cars have hung up there boots. Nissan's GTR is not really a skyline is it? It's too good to be called a Skyline in my opinion (not that Skylines aren't awesome). Nissan are leading the way and are really showing off what they are capable of. I don't think Toyota have managed to produce a car, good enough to be released / a car that they are proud enough to wear the Supra badge. I think they have started to experiment though... a specific example is Lexus with their ISF... 5.0-litre 417bhp V8 engine tuned by yamaha....8 speed gearbox... now that's got potential Lexus are developing the LF-A too but is this really the new Supra or are Toyota saving the badge? I can't wait to see the LF-A and how it stacks up against the GTR.

On a side note the Supra and Evo are two very different cars! Derrrr one has 4 doors, 4 cylinders, AWD, originates as a rally homoligation car and one has 2 doors 6 cylinders and RWD that was designed as production GT car. I'm not even going to bother trying to compare the two... apples and oranges...it's a complete waste of finger typing energy. I love both... you should too.

 

Boost Logic Supra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh3oHsqA7ag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F7J6O5tnnk

 

my god that car is ridiculous!!

Supras are amazing cars and i dont really think anyone can hate on one unless they've owned one personally.

 

hmm...i cant wait to get a MKIV....someday...

its my "other" dream car.