Actually YES, my BIL sold Hyundais for a while this year.

I still would not pay $40k for it. Just like I wouldn't pay $40k for a EvoX MR.

You want to know why? Because the dealerships SUCK DONKEY ***** LIKE A TIJUANA *****.

Seriously. Have you been in an Infiniti, Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes dealership? I've owned two out of those 4 and have been with friends at the others (and shopped there). Comparing a Hyundai experience to a true luxury brand is not anywhere in the same league.

And the car STILL didn't feel like a $40k car. There was a lot of corner cutting in all the little details (which honestly we're seeing across the board).

 

The engine is a shared design, however the engine is NOT the same as the one in the EvoX or Ralliart. The internals are different and the engine blocks themselves are slightly different internally (difference in how they are built, cleaner castings, etc.). Also, the turbos and other setups are different.

Still, the Genesis coupe is going to be a winner by all accounts.

 

Completely and totally incorrect. You really need to do some research before making comments like that. Mitsu, hyundai, and daimler/chrysler formed the global 4 to share certain engine blocks to reduce tooling costs and make sharing of manufacturing facilities possible, again, for cost reduction. The only similarity is the basic block DESIGN, as all the 4 cylinder blocks are casted differently for the application.

The intenals (pistons, rods, cams, crank, etc), the cylinder head (including porting and bowl design), and the auxilary equipment (intake manifold, turbo, turbo manifold, ic, ic pipes/routing path, etc) are ALL DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE TO EACH MANUFACTURER. Lastly, assembly of each engine is up to the manufacturer as well. The evo is entirely built and assembled in Japan, NOT Korea like a hyundai.

I'm not ragging on hyundai, but saying that a hyundai genesis (with an engine similar to the ralliart) is going to be a threat to an evo is like saying that the ralliart is going to be a threat to the evo and I can assure you, IT'S NOT. It will be an RA competitor and probably do well in it's category but that's all.

 

Finally, some factual information emerges from the ashes of BS!

Later, Ken

 

oh, so the Evo and there for the RA block is reinforced vs other 4B's for high boost application.

so that is mean the Hunday, SRT and so doesnt get that reainforced block and interior?

 

that is true.

But remember the history
How hard is put the 4G63T in the hyundai?

sounds like you can make a beast out from them. And hyundai is not far from racing as you know.

 

Obviously lexus and bmw etc.. are the leaders of luxury but no other car company can make a luxury like them? It's the saying that is always said, don't judge a book by its cover.

 

Have you stepped foot into a hyundai dealership lately?

No offense to my bil but hyundai dealerships make tote you note salesmen look like choir boys.

You simply have a different aura when you average transaction is 20k vs 50k.

I understand that hyundai is trying to get hyundai to the "lincoln" level and kia to the ford level. They have a very hard row to hoe though. Their cars are much better than they were 5-10 years ago, however the dealers still have the 6999.99 mentality.

 

That was a while ago... Chrysler aint got a saying on Mitsu's business anymore. And Mitsu is making turbos even for BMW! so no kudos tu Hyunday on nothing... it's still a Hyunday or however the heck u spell it and regardless of how great they might be up in Korea

 

Depends on how much the coupe is selling for, but I will definitely take a look at it when my GSR lease is up in 2010.

A 2 door turbo-rwd that will probably be tunable to 275-whp. If the price is right, I don't discriminate because of Hyundai, at least they aren't begging anyone for a bailout.

 

EDIT:

Looks like it may turn out to be CHEAPER than the Ralliart!

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/11...cooped-in.html

The base model 2.0T starting under $20k!

 

As I have commented a few times on here the 2.0T Coupe is going to be my new "toy" as well as we will be offering a complete lineup of parts for the car.

A couple of weeks ago I added a Coupe section to our forums if you guys would like to check some of the stuff out. http://buschurforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Since the coupe was announced I have done extensive research to learn everything possible on the car. While some facts are kind of still out there since we do not have the actual US spec car here alot is hard to say what is true until you can put your own hands in to it.

Just to clarify this as the post wasnt all too clear but..... The Coupe will NOT have a V8. The Coupe is going to be offered with a turbocharged 4cyl or a V6. The V8 is in the Sedan as well as it is offered with a V6.

4cyl is supposed to be a "de-tuned" 4B11T.

I agree.

There is already ECUTEK software out for it in Korea where the car was released in September.

I have a source in Korea who confirmed the Evo X block and the Genesis 2.0T blocks are the same. I can not speak for this as 100% as I will not confirm or repeat things as fact until I can personally see. What I was originially told is it is the same 4B11T engine with a slight difference in the head.

That is correct. The base coupe is supposed to be priced right around $19,300 from what ive heard.

I am going for the track package which add some suspension components and the same Brembo brake kit as the Evo.

 

Not sure how value holds up for Hyundai's now but it may be better to wait a year or two and pick one up used. Other than that it seems to be a nice option compared to the FWD cars in that price range.

 

Thank you for posting that, it was sorely needed in order to set some folks straight.
Honestly I'd be very interested in this "fashionably US spec Silvia"(the comparison is fair: 200ish turbo 4, rwd, manual, etc) we never got before 6speed, RWD, and affordable (relatively). It was mentioned before, the aftermarket should have a field day with this platform and Hyndai is banking on it given the recent Modified Mag article I read.

 

This looks to be another Ralliart vs. Evo type thread and/or threads in the makings. This car will more than likely be a ralliart in a different body. Mitsu wouldn't allow them to make such a car for that much cheaper to be tuned to evo power, no one would buy the evo then. Not to mention the genesis looks to only make 215 crankHP, no where near the evo's. It will be just like trying to upgrade a wrx to STI, not going to work.

I am inclined to side with STI2EVOx on this one, sorry JROD, I am still going to buy your evoX products though